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*Arc tbc* ---Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:26 pm
by NickToye
I've just discovered Hagley Road, nr Stourbridge was where my ancestors lived in 1891 - so basically I am looking to map a visit to the area and wanted to take in some of the old sites where my ancestors lived.

I have found out that they lived in 5 Hagley Road, which is now a pub/restaurant called The Swan. I'm really looking for confirmation that this actual street was over 100 years old, and that this pub was the place where my ancestors lived.

Anybody know anything from their own experiences?

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:55 pm
by linell
I know the Hagley Road that ran into Stourbridge, most of it is now a Dual Carriageway, a lot of the old properties have gone, but No 5. could be in Stourbridge Town Centre, will have a look for The Swan and get back to you. Linell.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:12 pm
by linell
I found The Swan in Kelly's Directory for 1940, then run by a Thos H. Cook. Hagley Road is definitely more than 100 years old, I have seen pictures of it dating back to the 1800's. HTH from Linell.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:14 pm
by NickToye
Yeah I googled 5 Hagley Road, and that is The Swan,

Do you have these pictures at all?

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:20 pm
by linell
Hagley Road is listed here on the 1861 Census. 09 2065 Folio 11:-

Stourbridge 11 St. Marys' Oldswinford Upper Swinford (1 of 3)
Oldswinford Hospital
Hagley Road
Upper Swinford (2 of 3)
Brick Lane
Field Lane
The Farlands
Spitefull Row
New Street (2 of 2)
Heath Lane (1 of 3)
Palace Row
Heath Lane (2 of 3)

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:21 pm
by linell
You can find pictures of Hagley Road in most Stourbridge Local History Books.

Linell.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:21 pm
by linell
Which Ancestor lived there?

Linell.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:25 pm
by NickToye
Edwin Toy & Ellen Toy, children - Thomas, David, Eliza.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:20 am
by kdw
Are you sure it was Stourbridge in 1891 they are at 5 Hagley Road Quinton

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:58 am
by NickToye
Is it not the same place?

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:05 pm
by linell
Hi Nick, Kaye is correct it is not the same place, Hagley Road Quinton is running into Birmingham. Here are the details from the 1891 Census, no mention of a Pub, Edwin is a Bricklayer :?:

Name: Edward Toye
[Edwin Toye]
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Toye
Gender: Male
Where born: Quinton, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Warley
Ecclesiastical parish: Quinton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Toye 30
Ellen Toye 31
Thomas Toye 7
David Toye 5
Eliza Toye 2


Linell.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:26 pm
by Jimmy
NickToye wrote:I've just discovered Hagley Road, nr Stourbridge was where my ancestors lived in 1891 - so basically I am looking to map a visit to the area and wanted to take in some of the old sites where my ancestors lived.

I have found out that they lived in 5 Hagley Road, which is now a pub/restaurant called The Swan. I'm really looking for confirmation that this actual street was over 100 years old, and that this pub was the place where my ancestors lived.

Anybody know anything from their own experiences?


If you check the image the number 5 is not an house number, it is the census Schedule number.

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:33 pm
by Jimmy
It looks like they are 2 houses away from Apsley House, where Edwin Danks lived,

From the following link,
2. Sacred To The Memory of ELIZABETH beloved wife of EDWIN DANKS,
of Apsley House, Quinton Born Sept 25th 1834 Died Oct 8th 1905
In Loving Memory of EDWIN DANKS J.P. Apsley House Quinton
Born Dec 22 1839 Died Sept 25 1915.

http://www.qlhs.org.uk/archive/christ-c ... ptions.htm

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:35 pm
by Jimmy
Apsley House,

His home was Apsley House, in Halesowen Road, which is at present the site of the ABC Cinema.

http://www.qlhs.org.uk/history/history.htm

http://www.halesowennews.co.uk/news/452 ... ure_house/

Re: Hagley Road

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:09 pm
by NickToye
Jimmy wrote:It looks like they are 2 houses away from Apsley House, where Edwin Danks lived,

From the following link,
2. Sacred To The Memory of ELIZABETH beloved wife of EDWIN DANKS,
of Apsley House, Quinton Born Sept 25th 1834 Died Oct 8th 1905
In Loving Memory of EDWIN DANKS J.P. Apsley House Quinton
Born Dec 22 1839 Died Sept 25 1915.

http://www.qlhs.org.uk/archive/christ-c ... ptions.htm


Sorry, who is Edwin Danks?