*Arc tbc* ---William Toy or William Cole

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*Arc tbc* ---William Toy or William Cole

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I stumbled upon this site:

http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealog ... Dudley.htm

As I believed that my ancestor William Toy b 1793 married a Sarah Smart in 1836, this was added to the BCC site, however, I searched for Toy on that page and nothing, but searching for Sarah Smart brought up William Cole as the spouse on that date in 1836. Could this be a transcript error or could it be that the marriage to Sarah Smart didn't exist for William Toy?
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Two seperater transcriptions done by the L.D.S say William Cole married Sarah Smart on the 17th July 1836.
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NickToye wrote:I stumbled upon this site:

http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealog ... Dudley.htm

As I believed that my ancestor William Toy b 1793 married a Sarah Smart in 1836, this was added to the BCC site, however, I searched for Toy on that page and nothing, but searching for Sarah Smart brought up William Cole as the spouse on that date in 1836. Could this be a transcript error or could it be that the marriage to Sarah Smart didn't exist for William Toy?


the marriage was sarah bibb in 1836


bcc say 2 poss marriages


This could be her 1st marriage and I am adding it as such...I think her sister could be Phebe Smart mother of Eliza Parkes who married son of Wm Toye

25 Dec 1823 St Thomas Dudley
Henry Bibb otp Bach
Sarah Smart otp spinster
X both
Wit - S or L Paskin / X Rd Hadley


2nd Marriage info added by Jan and looked up at the archives

13 Nov 1836 St Thomas Dudley
William Toy otp widower
Sarah Bibb otp widow
banns
X both
Wit - Thos Allen (signed) / X John Allen
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anyone find any census for toy ?
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Moving this to BC section
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1841. Crock St, Hll.
John Evans 30.
Sarah Evans 30.
Thomas Moah 8.
Ellen Trumps 6.
Samuel Cutler 20.
Harriot Cutler 20.
William Toy 45. Smith.
Sarah Toy 40.
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1851. Crock? Street, The Hill,
William Toy, head, 60, Jobbing Smith, Halesowen
Sarah, wife, 53, Nailer, Dudley
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1861. Crock St, Hill.
William Toy 68. Jobbing Smith. Ridgeacre.
Sarah Toy 63. Ridgeacre.

House before,
William Toy 41.
Eliza Toy 35.
William Toy 14.
Thomas Toy 12.
Jane Toy 9.
Edwin Toy 11 MO.
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1861. Crock Street, Hill,
William Toy, head, 68, Jobbing Smith,
Sarah, wife, 63, Nailer
Both born Ridgeacre

The previous household, his son
1861. Crock Street, Hill,
William Toy, head, 41,
Elisa, wife,
William, son, 14,
Thomas, son, 12,
Jane, daur, 9
Edwin, son, 11? month

1871. Crock Street, Hill,
Sarah Toy, head, W, 73, Nailer, Long Lane

There are other Toy families near
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Sorry Jimmy, just repeating you there!
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Ok, is it safe to say then that William Toy didn't marry Sarah Smart then?
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peterd wrote:[quote="NickToye"
25 Dec 1823 St Thomas Dudley
Henry Bibb otp Bach
Sarah Smart otp spinster
X both
Wit - S or L Paskin / X Rd Hadley


2nd Marriage info added by Jan and looked up at the archives

13 Nov 1836 St Thomas Dudley
William Toy otp widower
Sarah Bibb otp widow
banns
X both
Wit - Thos Allen (signed) / X John Allen


If this is right, and Sarah Bibb was a widow when she married William Toy, then he married Sarah Bibb nee Smart.
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Ok, so how come on this site his name is Cole not Toy?

http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealog ... Dudley.htm

Is that an error by the transcriber? If I went down to the Church St Thomas in Dudley, would I be able to actually view the original record?
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NickToye wrote:Ok, so how come on this site his name is Cole not Toy?

http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealog ... Dudley.htm

Is that an error by the transcriber? If I went down to the Church St Thomas in Dudley, would I be able to actually view the original record?


This as already been looked up at the achives,

2nd Marriage info added by Jan and looked up at the archives

13 Nov 1836 St Thomas Dudley
William Toy otp widower
Sarah Bibb otp widow
banns
X both
Wit - Thos Allen (signed) / X John Allen
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http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealog ... Dudley.htm
The one on this link is this one,

17 July 1836,
William Cole. B.
Sarah Smart. S.
Witness, Thomas Allen, William Blakeway.
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