Query on Albert Willetts born about 1886

[Northern Lass]

On the marriage father is John
But think this may be an error on entry

Marriage 1905 St Luke, Cradley Heath
Albert WILLETTS 19 B Labourer Old Hill Father John Willetts (Dec) Chain-Maker
Martha GRAY 20 S Old Hill Father Richard Gray Labourer
Wit; Thomas Hingley Parsons
Mary Ann Hingley Bache
Note: THESE SIGN ON A LOT OF WEDS, MUST BE CLERGY Etc)

or we have 2 Alberts that marry Marthas

for the moment I have merged and added a note

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =315425352


so is his father Philip or John

the 1911 fits with him being a fruiterer
son philip
Martha b quarry bank
area good ie old hill

but why on marriage is father John and he is a Labourer not fruiterer

[Northern Lass]

1901: King Street, Rowley Regis
Philip Willetts 43 Head Chainmaker Cradley Heath, Staffs
Louisa Willetts 41 Wife Grocers Shop Keeper Cradley, Worc
Albert Willetts 14 Son Horse Driver for fruiterer Cradley, Worc
Louisa Hardy 11 Niece Cradley Heath
George Hardy 7 Nephew Cradley Heath
Jack Hardy 5 Nephew Stourbridge
Amy Stokes 13 Serv Quarry Bank


1911: 41 Elbow St, Old Hill Staffordshire
WILLETTS, Albert Head Married M 24 1887 Fruiter Cradley Worcestershire
WILLETTS, Martha Wife Married 5 years F 25 1886 Quarry Bank Staffs
WILLETTS, Philip Son M 3 1908 Old Hill Staffs
WILLETTS, Dan Son M 1 1910 Old Hill Staffs

[Northern Lass]

Philip doesnt die until 1946

"Phillip died in 1946 age 88 and is buried in St. Lukes churchyard in Cradley Heath together with his wife. "

[Northern Lass]

Births Dec 1916
Willetts Albert Gray Dudley 6b 1538

[Northern Lass]

I think it is the right one on the 1911

but is she Martha Gray?

if so
why on marriage is his father John
deceased by 1905
and Albert is a labourer

[Jimmy]

1891. Carman St, Manchester.
John Willeth 36. Chain maker.
Louisa Willeth 35.
William Willeth 12.
Louisa Willeth 8.
Belsy Willeth 7.
Albert Willeth 5.
John Willeth 3.
William Spragg 34. Lodger. Warwick.

All born Cradley.

[Northern Lass]

Something odd here

Philip and Louisa marry in 1879
no other kids on 1901 except albert

where is Albert on the 1891

Philip is on his own
Louisa is with sister

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage 1874.
WILLETTS John, WESTWOOD Louisa, Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/032/71.

[Jimmy]

1901. Cecil Rd, Gloucester
Louisa Willetts 44. Widow.
William Willetts 22. Son.
Louisa Willetts 18. Dau.
Betsy Willetts 17. Dau.
John Willetts 13. Son.
Felix Willetts 9. Son. Manchester.
Minnie Willetts 7. Dau. Gloucestershire.
George Willetts 6. Son. Gloucestershire.
Annie Willetts 4. Dau. Gloucestershire.
Annie Willetts 6. Dau. Gloucestershire.

Others born Cradley.

[Northern Lass]

1891. Carman St, Manchester.
John Willeth 36. Chain maker.
Louisa Willeth 35.
William Willeth 12.
Louisa Willeth 8.
Belsy Willeth 7.
Albert Willeth 5.
John Willeth 3.
William Spragg 34. Lodger. Warwick.

All born Cradley.

ah! so this one could be our albert with father John

but that 1911 doesnt explain that marriage of 5 years that they put on census

the one on the 1911 is the one with father Philip
must be
calls kid Philip
another one DAn

so where is that marriage then?

[Jimmy]

Philip is on his own in,

1891. 18 King St. RR.
Philip Willetts 34. Head M. Chainmaker.

[Jimmy]

I wonder if Philip and John are brothers.

[Northern Lass]

There is something very odd here
I can find Dan Willetts and Philip on free bmd
but not on bmsgh

Births Dec 1907
WILLETTS Philip Dudley 6c 4


Births Jun 1910
WILLETTS Dan Dudley 6c 12

and again if the Albert in 1916 is part of the family only on free bmd
Births Dec 1916
Willetts Albert Gray Dudley 6b 1538

[Jimmy]

1881. Biggs Building. Cradley.
John Willetts 25. Chainmaker.
Louisa Willetts 24.
William Willetts 2.
Harry Willetts 19. Lodger.

All born Cradley.

[Jimmy]

1891 Albert as a brother John age 3.