*Archived * -Adams to Downing to Jones to Hipkiss link

[mumbles]

Margaret has a Thomas Adams born 1789 RR , son of Edward Adams born 1759 Halesowen & Elizabeth Slater born 1762 RR.
I have a Thomas Adams on 1841 Census aged 54 ( born 1787 RR) married to a Sarah ? .
Is it the same Thomas Adams as it would then be possible to make connections noted?

[Jimmy]

Submitted,

THOMAS ADAMS.
SARAH BATE.
Marriage, 11 AUG 1811. Old Swinford, Worcester,

Extracted.

THOMAS ADAMS.
SARAH SOUTHALL.
Marriage, 10 JUN 1821. Old Swinford, Worcester,

[peterd]

mumbles stick the 1841 census up so we can see the kids?

[Jimmy]

2 in Staffordshire, both extracted.

THOMAS ADAMS.
SARAH CHARLES.
Marriage, 20 JUL 1812. Saint Peter Or Collegiate, Wolverhampton,

THOMAS ADAMS.
SARAH HEATH.
Marriage, 21 JUN 1824. Saint Mary's, Handsworth,

[Northern Lass]

hmmm could do with that marriage to see Witnesses maybe a bro or sister for Thomas
we need to be really as sure as we can be before we join up.

[mumbles]

1841 Census:-
Thomas Adams 54 Rowley Nailer
Sarah Adams 55 Rowley
Hannah Adams 51 Not Staffs.
Joseph Adams 23 Rowley
Samuel Adams 19 Rowley
William Adams 12 Rowley
Thomas Adams 14 Rowley

Blackheath , Rowley Regis

[mumbles]

Hi, Just found two trees on Ancestry for Thomas born 1786 RR died 1866 Stourbridge and wife shown as Sarah Bates
There are a few more Children :-
Mary born 1812
Sarah born 1825 died 1825
and a Mary Coley shown as child but no date

[FarSide]

Do you have this one
1861
107
Blackheath, Rowley
Hannah Adams 70 - visitor - born Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire
Sarah Adams 75 - widow - born manchester
Thomas Adams 36 - nailor - born Rowley

next door
106
Phoebe Adams 30
Samuel Adams 40 - Labourer
Samuel Adams 5
Sarah Adams 16
Thomas Adams 10
All born Rowley

[mumbles]

I have not found 1861 Census but is obviously same family.
I had found the 1861 Census showing Samuel and Phoebe and that is the Samuel who married Phoebe Downing. Their son Samuel Adams married Clarissa Jones sister of Enoch Jones who married Miriam Adams sister of Eber Adams who married Ampillis Hipkiss.Thus the link joining all these families and more.
I think the Thomas Adams inserted by Margaret is same one as cannot find another Thomas Adams born at same time in RR but I will insert as separate for moment until validation obtained

[Northern Lass]

Just looking at this I am about to fill in some bits mumbles this lot links to Robs!
back soon!

[Northern Lass]

Dont add anything yet mumbles!!

[mumbles]

Hi NL,
I have found missing 1851 Census as Thomas Adams is shown under Adames aged 63 and family live same street as Charles and Hannah Bate who must be related to Sarah Bate/s as in 1871 and 1881 Thomas Adams ( son of Thomas and Sarah is living with Charles and Hannah Bate.In 1881 Thomas Adams aged 55 and Hannah Bate are Boarders with Thomas Willetts 31 and Sarah A. Willetts 31
I will not insert anything until you say OK

[mumbles]

Hi NL,
Another validation is fact that Sarah Hazlewood aged 5 was with Thomas and Sarah on 1841 Census and with Charles and Hannah as a servant aged 15 in 1851 and a Elizabeth Hazlewood aged 6 was servant with Thomas and Sarah in 1851 .
These were probably relatives of the Hazlewood who married into family although surname is transcribed as Harlewood on some transcriptions.

[Northern Lass]

Thats the ones mumbles...ok I got to leave it now so will pass it over to you!
Can you sort it all for us please

I have joined that Thomas of margarets and John b 1821 up...

The 1841 is the same info I have for Thomas and Sarah bates.
Then yes you got em in 1851 as down as Adames and Charles bates and Hannah living up the road.
Then in 1861 that lot with the Sarah from Manchester too!


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =892781662

so have a look will you mumbles correct anything that you dont feel is correct please on anything I have added and if you could add the census info and kids info too that would be great

[Northern Lass]

Hi NL,
Another validation is fact that Sarah Hazlewood aged 5 was with Thomas and Sarah on 1841 Census and with Charles and Hannah as a servant aged 15 in 1851 and a Elizabeth Hazlewood aged 6 was servant with Thomas and Sarah in 1851 .
These were probably relatives of the Hazlewood who married into family although surname is transcribed as Harlewood on some transcriptions.

We worked on these Hazlewoods before I will dig my notes out they are sisters and we had their parents too....cant rememeber though...