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This is a spin off from James Timmins Chance thread

Here's a link to the Black Country History site - http://blackcountryhistory.org/collecti ... 6_FP-CH_7/

(extracted)
JAMES SIMMINS? CHANCE
Birth: 22 MAR 1814
Christening: 30 APR 1814 Saint Mary, Birmingham, Warwick
Father: WILLIAM CHANCE
Mother: PHEBE

I have looked up the marriage for his parents....

Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwickshire
Marriage 06 Aug 1811
William Chance - otp - Bach (signed his name William Chance ?)
Phoebe Timmins - otp - Spin (signed)
Married by Licence from the Rev J Darwall
Witnesses: James Timmins - Lucy Ann Timmins - E Sargent

this looks like them...

1851: Spring Grove House, Ladwood, Birmingham
William Chance 62 Head M County & Borough Magistrate/ Master Glass Manuf Birmingham
Pheobe Chance 60 Wife M Birmingham
Eliza Chance 38 Dau U Birmingham
Louisa Chance 20 Dau U Birmingham
Henery Chance 23 Son U Alkali Manufactor Birmingham
Jane Getten 32 Serv U Housemaid
Eliza Brook 32 Serv U Ladies Maid
Anne Bishop 19 Serv U Cook
Charlotte Lane 20 Serv U Under housemaid
Samuel Pope 28 Serv U Butler

Can anyone see William and Phoebe in 1841?

Could someone check the image on 1901 census for ...

James T Chance born 1814 Birmingham, Warwickshire

It says this...

1901: 1 Grant Avenue, Hove, Sussex
Sir Jas T Chance Bart 87 Head Widwr Retired Glass Manufacturer
Margaret A Bart 50 Dau S
Marian G Bart 38 Dau S
James F Bart 44 Son S Retired Glass Manufacturer

I think the 'Bart' refers to only James (could it mean Bachelor of Art ?)

mallosa wrote:Could someone check the image on 1901 census for ...

James T Chance born 1814 Birmingham, Warwickshire

It says this...

1901: 1 Grant Avenue, Hove, Sussex
Sir Jas T Chance Bart 87 Head Widwr Retired Glass Manufacturer
Margaret A Bart 50 Dau S
Marian G Bart 38 Dau S
James F Bart 44 Son S Retired Glass Manufacturer

I think the 'Bart' refers to only James (could it mean Bachelor of Art ?)

I thought "Bart" was short for Baronet as in SIR Jame T Chance -- officially I think it is either Sir or Bart
I also think it says GRAND avenue rather than Grant

Thanks MG, that certainly makes sense doesn't it?

mallosa wrote:Can anyone see William and Phoebe in 1841?

No luck?

Don't see them on 41..
I googled him, heaps on him.. you may already have this
http://www.search.revolutionaryplayers. ... =&offset=0

Not that particular one Jo but yes, there are heaps on him!

This is what I've added so far - ...here

Is this still running Mally?
do you need any more info?
or can we archive?

Can be archive please NL