I was just wondering if anyone could find the following people on the 1901 census. They should all be present in the same household. It should be Bury, Lancashire.
Michael HARRISON, 28, Head, Married b. Co. Mayo
Mary HARRISON, 28, Wife, Married b. Co. Mayo
Frank HARRISON, 8, Son
Mary HARRISON, 5, Dau
Ann HARRISON, 3, Dau
Hubert HARRISON, 1, Son
Possibly also Katherine Harrison, as she was born in 1901.
I was just wondering if anyone could tell me where they are, and also where the children were born. They're on the 1911 census, but I'm not able to search the 1901 census at home.
Thanks
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To get us started --I presume this is them in 1911
1911 73 Paradise St Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Michael Head Married M 38 1873 General Labour Mayo Ireland
HARRISON, Mary Wife Married 19 years F 38 1873 Home Work Mayo Ireland
HARRISON, Frank Son Single M 18 1893 General Labourer Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Mary Daughter Single F 15 1896 Ring Spinning Doffer Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Ann Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Hubert Son Single M 11 1900 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Katherine Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, John Son Single M 7 1904 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Margaret Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Ellen Daughter Single F 3 1908 Bury Lancashire
1911 73 Paradise St Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Michael Head Married M 38 1873 General Labour Mayo Ireland
HARRISON, Mary Wife Married 19 years F 38 1873 Home Work Mayo Ireland
HARRISON, Frank Son Single M 18 1893 General Labourer Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Mary Daughter Single F 15 1896 Ring Spinning Doffer Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Ann Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Hubert Son Single M 11 1900 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Katherine Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, John Son Single M 7 1904 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Margaret Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Bury Lancashire
HARRISON, Ellen Daughter Single F 3 1908 Bury Lancashire
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Just a thought -- did they miss the census as they were travelling back to Ireland to show off new baby?
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That is indeed them Maths Girl. Sorry, I thought's I'd put in the address.
I suppose it is possible they missed the census in 1901. That most likely is the case, considering all of their children were born in England. Thanks.
I suppose it is possible they missed the census in 1901. That most likely is the case, considering all of their children were born in England. Thanks.
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Just as I was looking in 1901, I found this ... had you seen it, BW?
1901
At 8 Gilding Court, Bury (part of), Lancashire
John Harrison Head Wid 60 Labourer - General b. Ireland
Thomas Harrison Son 25 Bricklayer's Labourer b. Lancashire, Bury
Winifred Harrison Daur 20 Ring Spinner - Cotton b. Lancashire, Bury
John Harrison Grandson 9 b. Lancashire, Bury
Michael Lyons Son-in-law 30 Bricklayer's Labourer b. Ireland
Catherine Lyons Daur 23 Housekeeper b. Lancashire, Bury
Hubert Lyons Grandson 1 b. Lancashire, Bury
2 entries further on:
Catherine Duffy Head S 23 (looks like) 'Feut' Sorter b. Yorkshire, Birstall
William Harrison Step-brother 17 Brick Labourer b. Lancashire, Bury
George Harrison Step-brother 16 Cotton Doffer b. Lancashire, Bury
Agnes Harrison Step-sister 13 Cotton Ring Doffer b. Lancashire, Bury
Annie Harrison Cousin S 26 Housekeeper b. Lancashire, Bury
Relatives for Michael?
1901
At 8 Gilding Court, Bury (part of), Lancashire
John Harrison Head Wid 60 Labourer - General b. Ireland
Thomas Harrison Son 25 Bricklayer's Labourer b. Lancashire, Bury
Winifred Harrison Daur 20 Ring Spinner - Cotton b. Lancashire, Bury
John Harrison Grandson 9 b. Lancashire, Bury
Michael Lyons Son-in-law 30 Bricklayer's Labourer b. Ireland
Catherine Lyons Daur 23 Housekeeper b. Lancashire, Bury
Hubert Lyons Grandson 1 b. Lancashire, Bury
2 entries further on:
Catherine Duffy Head S 23 (looks like) 'Feut' Sorter b. Yorkshire, Birstall
William Harrison Step-brother 17 Brick Labourer b. Lancashire, Bury
George Harrison Step-brother 16 Cotton Doffer b. Lancashire, Bury
Agnes Harrison Step-sister 13 Cotton Ring Doffer b. Lancashire, Bury
Annie Harrison Cousin S 26 Housekeeper b. Lancashire, Bury
Relatives for Michael?
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They are quite possibly relatives for Michael, I'll have to look into that.
If it is the case they are relatives, I'd be interested to see who Hubert Lyons is, considering age and first name match what I would have expected to see for Michael's son.
If it is the case they are relatives, I'd be interested to see who Hubert Lyons is, considering age and first name match what I would have expected to see for Michael's son.
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I've tried to do some digging around to see whether the 1901 census return dianel found is of any use to me, and rather annoyingly no-one has any idea if it could be them.
However, I've not heard the Lyons name mentioned in my family before, and whilst there are some similarities, I'm not sure that they are indeed relatives of Michael.
I have checked the Irish census returns for 1901 to see if they were in Ireland, and I've been unable to find them there. So the only conclusion I can draw is that either I need to re-check the 1901 census of England, or they were en route to Ireland at the time the census was taken.
Was non-compliance an issue back then?
However, I've not heard the Lyons name mentioned in my family before, and whilst there are some similarities, I'm not sure that they are indeed relatives of Michael.
I have checked the Irish census returns for 1901 to see if they were in Ireland, and I've been unable to find them there. So the only conclusion I can draw is that either I need to re-check the 1901 census of England, or they were en route to Ireland at the time the census was taken.
Was non-compliance an issue back then?
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Same street?
1911. 56 Paradise St Bury Lancashire
John Harrison, head, 72, Co Mayo, Ireland, Resident
Michael Lyons, son in law, 34, Tramway Labourer, Co Mayo, Ireland, Resident
Catherine, daur, 33, married 11 years, 6 children 2 died,
Hubert, grandson, 11,
John, grandson, 8,
Thomas, grandson, 3,
Margaret, grand daur, 1
Winifride Harrison, Boarder, 31, Ring Spinner Cotton
All others born Bury
1911. 56 Paradise St Bury Lancashire
John Harrison, head, 72, Co Mayo, Ireland, Resident
Michael Lyons, son in law, 34, Tramway Labourer, Co Mayo, Ireland, Resident
Catherine, daur, 33, married 11 years, 6 children 2 died,
Hubert, grandson, 11,
John, grandson, 8,
Thomas, grandson, 3,
Margaret, grand daur, 1
Winifride Harrison, Boarder, 31, Ring Spinner Cotton
All others born Bury
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grangers14 wrote:Same street?
1911. 56 Paradise St Bury Lancashire
John Harrison, head, 72, Co Mayo, Ireland, Resident
Michael Lyons, son in law, 34, Tramway Labourer, Co Mayo, Ireland, Resident
Catherine, daur, 33, married 11 years, 6 children 2 died,
Hubert, grandson, 11,
John, grandson, 8,
Thomas, grandson, 3,
Margaret, grand daur, 1
Winifride Harrison, Boarder, 31, Ring Spinner Cotton
All others born Bury
There could indeed be some relation.
I'm presuming that Catherine and the children are all Lyons? I must admit, I'm confused by there being a Hubert and a John there, with similar information in the house though. Although I suppose it's not uncommon for people to share a first name. I'll have to see if I can find a link to the Lyons family with my Harrison's.
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yes they are Lyons.
Seems a big coincidence doesnt it?
Jo
Seems a big coincidence doesnt it?
Jo
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grangers14 wrote:yes they are Lyons.
Seems a big coincidence doesnt it?
Jo
It really is. I'm currently going over all the documents I've got, seeing if I can find a link to them.
Granted, my family aren't much help. I asked my oldest surviving relative and all I got back was "I can't really remember", and my mum said to me today "It only clicked today that Derby was my dad's gran, after I remembered that Miss Derby at school was my dad's cousin".
So, on top of the usual frustrations of missing records etc my family are about as much use as a chocolate teapot :p
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So, on top of the usual frustrations of missing records etc my family are about as much use as a chocolate teapot :p
Sorry but
I looked again for Michael and Mary in 1901... chocolate tea pot?
Jo
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grangers14 wrote:
Sorry but
I looked again for Michael and Mary in 1901... chocolate tea pot?
Jo
I take it you've not heard of that phrase before?
I'm also presuming that Michael and Mary aren't on the census in 1901?
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Just a long shot, was Michael 'Michael Francis' or 'Francis Michael''? ...
1901
At 48 Queens St., Bury
Francis Harrison Head 28 Labourer at Paper Manufacturing Mill b. Ireland
Mary Harrison Wife 26 b. Ireland
Francis Harrison Son 7 Scholar b. Lancs., Bury
Mary Harrison Daur 4 Scholar b. Lancs., Bury
Annie Harrison Daur 3 b. Lancs., Bury
Hugh (similar to Hubert?) Harrison Son 1 b. Lancs., Bury
Patrick Doherty Brother-in-law 21 Labourer at Paper Manufacturing Mill b. Ireland
Catherine Granier Aunt Wid 40 Cotton Weaver b. Ireland
Norah Granier Cousin 6 b. Ireland
The names and ages of the children are so similar???
1901
At 48 Queens St., Bury
Francis Harrison Head 28 Labourer at Paper Manufacturing Mill b. Ireland
Mary Harrison Wife 26 b. Ireland
Francis Harrison Son 7 Scholar b. Lancs., Bury
Mary Harrison Daur 4 Scholar b. Lancs., Bury
Annie Harrison Daur 3 b. Lancs., Bury
Hugh (similar to Hubert?) Harrison Son 1 b. Lancs., Bury
Patrick Doherty Brother-in-law 21 Labourer at Paper Manufacturing Mill b. Ireland
Catherine Granier Aunt Wid 40 Cotton Weaver b. Ireland
Norah Granier Cousin 6 b. Ireland
The names and ages of the children are so similar???
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dianel wrote:Just a long shot, was Michael 'Michael Francis' or 'Francis Michael''? ...
1901
At 48 Queens St., Bury
Francis Harrison Head 28 Labourer at Paper Manufacturing Mill b. Ireland
Mary Harrison Wife 26 b. Ireland
Francis Harrison Son 7 Scholar b. Lancs., Bury
Mary Harrison Daur 4 Scholar b. Lancs., Bury
Annie Harrison Daur 3 b. Lancs., Bury
Hugh (similar to Hubert?) Harrison Son 1 b. Lancs., Bury
Patrick Doherty Brother-in-law 21 Labourer at Paper Manufacturing Mill b. Ireland
Catherine Granier Aunt Wid 40 Cotton Weaver b. Ireland
Norah Granier Cousin 6 b. Ireland
The names and ages of the children are so similar???
That looks good to me -- a marriage btween Mary Doherty and Francis/Michael Harrison would help to confirm especially if we could find a Granier/Harrison/Doherty link!