*Arc tbc* ---Williams/Clift Connection
Moderators: Northern Lass, grangers14, admin, peterd
*Arc tbc* ---Williams/Clift Connection
1911 Census Mount Street Hasbury Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
James Clift Head 32 Flattener Hoof Button Factory born Halesowen Worcs.
Mary Clift wife 30 born Halesowen Worcs.
William Clift son 4
Edith Clift 8mths.
Rest born Hasbury Worcs.
Ref. a) Address same b) age of Edith exact as regards birth c) occupation of James almost same
I think same family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_
James Clift Head 32 Flattener Hoof Button Factory born Halesowen Worcs.
Mary Clift wife 30 born Halesowen Worcs.
William Clift son 4
Edith Clift 8mths.
Rest born Hasbury Worcs.
Ref. a) Address same b) age of Edith exact as regards birth c) occupation of James almost same
I think same family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_
- dianel
- Posts: 3132
- Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:51 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: PERRY, HARROLD, COOKSEY, HINGLEY, WOODHOUSE, MATEER, RIDDELL, RYAN, LEVETT
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: BLACK COUNTRY, BELFAST, CO. LIMERICK, LANARKSHIRE
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
From Ancestry trees:
Suggested wife for James Clift b. 1832 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, England:
1850
22 Jul
Age: 19
Marriage to Mary Hackett
St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
IGI Batch Number M040143
(Possible relationship for William H Clift and his wife Ann Rose through the Hackett family? I think they might be cousins of some degree.)
Suggested wife for his father, Thomas Clift b. 1789 in Cradley, Halesowen, Shropshire, England:
1810
23 Apr
Age: 21
Marriage to Mary Brooke
St Thomas' Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Suggested wife for James Clift b. 1832 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, England:
1850
22 Jul
Age: 19
Marriage to Mary Hackett
St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
IGI Batch Number M040143
(Possible relationship for William H Clift and his wife Ann Rose through the Hackett family? I think they might be cousins of some degree.)
Suggested wife for his father, Thomas Clift b. 1789 in Cradley, Halesowen, Shropshire, England:
1810
23 Apr
Age: 21
Marriage to Mary Brooke
St Thomas' Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Last edited by dianel on Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:42 am, edited 1 time in total.
Some mistakes are too much fun
to only make once.
to only make once.
- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Mumbles those links are the same ones
there is this James Clift b 1880
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =814545558
do you mean that that is James Clift in 1911 that has father William Clift?
not with you
there is this James Clift b 1880
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =814545558
do you mean that that is James Clift in 1911 that has father William Clift?
not with you

- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
mumbles wrote:1911 Census Mount Street Hasbury Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
James Clift Head 32 Flattener Hoof Button Factory born Halesowen Worcs.
Mary Clift wife 30 born Halesowen Worcs.
William Clift son 4
Edith Clift 8mths.
Rest born Hasbury Worcs.
Ref. a) Address same b) age of Edith exact as regards birth c) occupation of James almost same
I think same family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_
Do you mean that the James in 1911 above ....this is his dau
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
and this is his family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =506801018
- dianel
- Posts: 3132
- Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:51 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: PERRY, HARROLD, COOKSEY, HINGLEY, WOODHOUSE, MATEER, RIDDELL, RYAN, LEVETT
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: BLACK COUNTRY, BELFAST, CO. LIMERICK, LANARKSHIRE
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Nicely sorted out, NL. I was confused so went on a sidetrack 

Some mistakes are too much fun
to only make once.
to only make once.
- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
I can look this up next week for the connection
and a Marriage for James if we have one
do we have one?
1936
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLIFT Edith WILLIAMS Joseph Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/012/238
and a Marriage for James if we have one
do we have one?
1936
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLIFT Edith WILLIAMS Joseph Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/012/238
- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Births Dec 1911
Clift Edith Corbett Stourbridge 6c 247
Is this Edith?
where is marriage?
Clift Edith Corbett Stourbridge 6c 247
Is this Edith?
where is marriage?

- beardie
- Posts: 193
- Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:06 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Beard(Oldbury) Lowe(Blackheath)
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country
- Location: bleakheath
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
wasnt horace clift (1891) killed with the sinking of the lusitania? 

- Attachments
-
- lus 14 may 1915.JPG (223.29 KiB) Viewed 1554 times
It must come to a fight . Only make the right wing strong
- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Thanks Beardie
We could do with adding that for Horace Clift
where is that from Beardie so we can acknowledge it in the notes
we can add the giste of it then
We could do with adding that for Horace Clift
where is that from Beardie so we can acknowledge it in the notes
we can add the giste of it then
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Sorry about that Nl,
this was Edith Clift I meant to add :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
Marriage date was from living relative
There is another Hackett link to Williams and Clift as Charles Hackett ( born 1889 and on bcc ) married Alice Field and their daughter Gladys Hackett born July 10th 1912 married Howard Williams born 1912 (onbcc) brother of Joseph Williams who married Edith Clift.
this was Edith Clift I meant to add :-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
Marriage date was from living relative
There is another Hackett link to Williams and Clift as Charles Hackett ( born 1889 and on bcc ) married Alice Field and their daughter Gladys Hackett born July 10th 1912 married Howard Williams born 1912 (onbcc) brother of Joseph Williams who married Edith Clift.
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
This is Charles Hackett line who I believe married Alice Field and whose daughter Gladys Hackett married Howard Williams
- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
If you add that marriage for Edith I will look it up then we can connect up


Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Marriage:-
CLIFT Edith WILLIAMS Joseph Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/012/238 1936
but no need for look up as Spikemaker has given details and it is correct parents
The Charles Hackett marriage to Alice Field would be worth a look up as it would confirm Alice Fields father and confirm that Charles Hacketts father was William Hackett
HACKETT Charles FIELD Alice Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/008/488 1909
CLIFT Edith WILLIAMS Joseph Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/012/238 1936
but no need for look up as Spikemaker has given details and it is correct parents
The Charles Hackett marriage to Alice Field would be worth a look up as it would confirm Alice Fields father and confirm that Charles Hacketts father was William Hackett
HACKETT Charles FIELD Alice Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/008/488 1909
- Northern Lass
- Posts: 46038
- Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne
Re: Williams/Clift Connection
Ok stick it on and I can look it up

so you can connect Edith up? without look up?
so another connection done
good stuff

so you can connect Edith up? without look up?
so another connection done
good stuff