Thomas Cox

[Northern Lass]

Can we find an accurate dob pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =141960970

wit Stephen cox at Maria cox wedding

[Jimmy]

1851. High Park, Cradley.
Thos Cox 35. Head. Wid. Horse nail forger.
Maria Cox 11.
Rhoda Cox 9.
Amelia Cox 7.
Benjn Cox 3.

[kdw]

Not sure how Thomas fits in but Maria is the grandaughter of Benjamin Cox here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =331437576
See Vicars notes

[Northern Lass]

Not sure how Thomas fits in but Maria is the grandaughter of Benjamin Cox here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =331437576
See Vicars notes

Thomas is father on marriage I looked up

Marriage info added by Jan looked up at archives
1 March 1858 St Peter Cradley
Joseph Raybould 18 bach forgeman Cradley Richard Raybould Hatchet forger
Maria Cox 19 spinster nailer Cradley Thomas Cox nailer
banns
Joseph signed/ X Maria
Wit- Stephen Cox / Rebecca Forrest

[Northern Lass]

Thomas must be a son
I am going to link as such but we need to find a bapt and confirm marriage for him

[kdw]

Is Hannah her mother ?
She is next door to Benjamin and Maria in 1841

This could be Thomas
1841 Park Row Cradley
Thos Cox 25 Nailer Born in County
James Cox 25 Can't make out if born in county
Rhoda Cox 6 Mo Born in County

1861 Hasbury
Thomas Cox Head 45 Horse nail Maker Born Cradley
Eliza Cox Wife 46 Nail Forgwer Born Halesowen
Amelia Cox Daur. 18 Nail Forger Born Cradley Heath
Benjamin Cox Son 13 Nail Forger Born Cradley

[Northern Lass]

1851. High Park, Cradley.
Thos Cox 35. Head. Wid. Horse nail forger.
Maria Cox 11.
Rhoda Cox 9.
Amelia Cox 7.
Benjn Cox 3.

so this looks like Maria
Thomas is down as her father on certif
the name Amelia is there
and Rhoda

so who did he marry
and is that Eliza his second wife

[kdw]

Possible 1st marriage
Submitted
Thomas Cox
Birth: 1813 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Marriages:
Spouse: Hannah Cox Family
Marriage: About 1834 Of, Kings Norton, Worcester, England

2 Possible 2nd marriages
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COX Thomas SALT Eliza Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/267

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COX Thomas TROMANS Elizabeth Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/325

Could this be the same Thomas

1871 Islington
Thomas Cox Head 55 Horse Nail Maker Born Cradley
Anne Cox Wife 50 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Redfern Step Daur. 12 Carder at Button Factory Born Halesowen
Bertha Redfern Step Daur. 9 Nurse Born Halesowen

3rd Marriage ?
Extracted
THOMAS COX
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN REDFERN
Marriage: 19 MAR 1866 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Husband Age at Marriage: 49
Wife Age at Marriage: 46

[linell]

Thomas Cox did live (no Marriage found with Ann Redfern nee Taylor) from Halesowen Roots:-

William Southall born 1856 married Mary Redfern on 26/3/1877 at Hales Owen. His job was given as a chainmaker and she was a gun barrel borer. The witnesses were Thomas Neath and Martha Hadley

Mary, known as Polly, was the daughter of Charles and Ann Redfern and was born about 1857.

Charles Redfern had married Ann Taylor 0n 8/3/1847 at Hales Owen.

In 1851, Charles Redfern, a nail maker, age 31 years, was living at the Islington Hales Owen with his wife, Ann, a nail maker, age 30 years, born at Rowley, their son, William, age 10years, also a nail maker, their two daughters, Sarah, age 7 years and Martha, age 4 years and their youngest son Thomas age 1 year. Like all his children, Charles was born in Hales Owen.

Thomas Redfern was buried at St Johns, Hales Owen on 18/1/1852 age 2 years

By 1861, Charles and Anne had added Mary age 4 years and Elizabeth age 2 years to their family and their address is given as 37 Islington Street.

According to the IGI index, Charles and Anne had another child in 1862, Bertha. She was christened at Hales Owen church on 31/8/1864.

By 1881, Charles and Anne were not living together and Anne had remarried. It is quite possible that Charles had died but no record to confirm that has yet been found. In 1881, Ann Redfern nee Taylor, age 61, was living as the wife of nail forger, Thomas Cox, age 65 years born in Cradley. Living with them and described, probably wrongly, as their granddaughter was Bertha Redfern, a button edger, age 19 years.

In 1861, Thomas Cox had been living at 126 Bundle Hill with his wife, Eliza, age 46 years and their children, Amelia, age 18 years and Benjamin, age 13 years.

William Southall, born 1856 and his wife Mary nee Redfern, somehow managed to not be included in the 1881 census but were counted in 1891 living at 11 Gaunts Yard, Hales Owen.

The details given are:

William age 36 years a chain maker born in Cradley

Mary age 36 - gun barrel borer - - Hales Owen

Ebor age 12

Elizabeth age 9

Charles age 6

Issac age 4

Harry age 4 months

Ebor was born in Cradley while the remainder of the children were born in Hales Owen.

Elizabeth Southall born 1881 married Abel Holloway born 1881 on October 29th 1900 at Hales Owen and went to live at the Southall Family home in Gaunts Yard.

In 1901, Ebor Southall was lodging at 20 Gaunts Yard with his wife Margaret aged 19, their son Ebor aged three weeks. The householder was Eliza Jones described as a 27 year old charwoman. She was married but her husband was not at home. She had a daughter Lily aged 9, and two sons Edward and Benjamin, ages 3 and 1 year respectively. Lily Jones lived until she was 102 years old

[Northern Lass]

We need the father on this marriage to see if it is our Thomas Cox
with dau Maria

3rd Marriage ?
Extracted
THOMAS COX
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN REDFERN
Marriage: 19 MAR 1866 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Husband Age at Marriage: 49
Wife Age at Marriage: 46

[linell]

Thanks for the Marriage NL. I have Charles Redfern dying before 1871, not looked at this for ages, his death maybe on Free BMD now, so the 1866 Marriage is probably right then. Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Ok Marriages are down for a look up as an urgent
need to confirm which Eliza
and Ann Redfern marriage

but do you have the info on this marriage lin
1877
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
REDFERN Mary SOUTHALL William Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/004/280

I am connecting now

[Northern Lass]

And is there the info on this one save looking it up

1847
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
REDFERN Charles TAYLOR Ann Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/16

[Northern Lass]

Lin I have now connected

can you add any of the info you have given if you got a min
re census kids for Charles and Ann

and connect up where necess
shame to lose that info
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =631427233

[linell]

Hi Jan, yes will do, I must have missed the Redfern's when I added my tree Will go through them all and make sure all my notes are added. Later Lin.