*Arc tbc* ---Barzilla Tromans

[Northern Lass]

This one is doing me nut in!!

I have done a look up for this couple
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

9 May 1853 St Thomas Dudley
Barzilla Trowmans full bach miner Dudley John Trowman miner
Sarah Ann Hill minor spinster Dudley Charles Hill Dead grinder
banns
X both
Wit- X George wakeman/ X Matilda Wakeman

Now on the 1851 Barzilla is at Garratts lane RR with a James Tromans b 1794 and his son b1818 RR
and is down as nephew
along with a niece Elizabeth Tromans b 1835

can someon post this pls

now those wits are interesting cos I think this is Elizabeth the niece
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =986964911

just that name Wakeman

but I cant find Barzilla on 1841
and cant see a bapt

How is he nephew to James?
Is James on BCC.....I couldnt see him

really stuck

[Northern Lass]

Poss....


JAMES TROMAN Male
Christening: 13 OCT 1793 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Mother: ELIZTH. TROMAN Extracted birth

[Jimmy]

1841. Garratts Lane. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Trouman 45.
Mary Trouman 45.
James Trouman 20.
John Trouman 25. Coalminer.
Barzilia Trouman 8.
Elizabeth Trouman 5.
John Morgan 25.
Henry Waring 20.

[Jimmy]

Living next door to my Shakespeares.

1851. Back of Garratts Lane.
James Tromans. 57.
James Tromans. 33.
Barzilla Tromans. 19. Coalminer. Nephew.
Elizabeth Tromans. 16.

Next door,
John Tromans. 35. nailmaker.
John Cain. 23.

[Jimmy]

Extracted.
JOHN TRUEMAN.
ELIZA SHELDON.
Marriage: About 02 JAN 1832, Old Swinford, Worcester.

Elizh Truman.
Christening: 20 DEC 1835. Rowley Regis.
Parents:
John Truman.
Elizh Truman.

[peterd]

BARZILLAI TROWMANS
SARAH ANN HILL
Marriage: 09 MAY 1853 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

[peterd]

1881; No 14 Cradley Rd (Or No 16 Or 17) Dudley, Worcester

Barzillai TROWMAN 47 Rowley, Stafford, Coal Miner
Sarah A. TROWMAN 46 Netherton, Worcester,
Charles TROWMAN Son W 25 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Mary TROWMAN 13 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Elizabeth TROWMAN Grand Dau U 1 Netherton, Worcester,

[Jimmy]

1871. 16 Court Cradley Road, Dudley.
Brazilla Trowmam 38. Coal miner. Old Hill Rowley Regis.
Sarah Ann Trowmam 36.
Charles Trowmam 15.
John Trowmam 13.
Hannah Trowmam 9.
Mary Trowmam 3.

All others born Dudley.

[Jimmy]

1861. 86 Cradley Rd, Dudley.
Bargelia Tromans 27. Coalminer.
Sarah Tromans 26.
Joseph Tromans 7.
Charles Tromans 5.
John Tromans 3.
Henry Tromans 1.
Danie Cartwright 75. Boarder.

[Northern Lass]

Extracted.
JOHN TRUEMAN.
ELIZA SHELDON.
Marriage: About 02 JAN 1832, Old Swinford, Worcester.

Elizh Truman.
Christening: 20 DEC 1835. Rowley Regis.
Parents:
John Truman.
Elizh Truman.

from transcribed book
20 Dec Eliz(h) d of John and Eliz(h) Truman Old Hill Warehouse man

is that our John then?
and living next door to James on 1851?
so how his he nephew?

[Northern Lass]

1841. Garratts Lane. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Trouman 45.
Mary Trouman 45.
James Trouman 20.
John Trouman 25. Coalminer.
Barzilia Trouman 8.
Elizabeth Trouman 5.
John Morgan 25.
Henry Waring 20.

So that fits doesnt it with this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =437094426

the wakeman name

[peterd]

witness to marriage

WAKEMAN George HOLT Matilda 1852 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/011/391

poss

1881Wrights Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford,

George WAKEMAN 48 Bromsgrove, Worcester, Coalminer
Matilda WAKEMAN 47 Amblecote, Stafford,
John WAKEMAN 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner
Thomas COTTERILL Boarder M 24 Fiberton, Hereford, Plumber
Mary A. COTTERILL Boarder M 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

[peterd]

GEORGE WAKEMAN
Christening: 19 FEB 1834 Bromsgrove, Worcester,

Mother: JANE WAKEMAN


so poss jane and mary sisters ?

[Northern Lass]

GEORGE WAKEMAN
Christening: 19 FEB 1834 Bromsgrove, Worcester,

Mother: JANE WAKEMAN


so poss jane and mary sisters ?

there is a John Wakeman on 1841 either in same hsehold or next one as mary
poss father aged 60

[Jimmy]

1841. New St. Rowley Regis.
Francis Hewett 30.
Jane Hewett 22.
Henry Hewett 13.
Louisa Hewett 11.
Jane Hewett 9.
Francis Hewett 2.
William Hewett 25.
George Wakeman 8.