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Hi all, trying to find information on my great-great grandmother, Alice Lyons neé Burk who was born in London around 1863. She married an Irishman called Thomas Lyons in 1879. Tried looking everywhere for information but because I don't know either of their father's names I have come to a dead end. Any suggestions?

Do you have the Marriage Certificate? If not that would give you their father's names. The only Alice Lyons of about the right age I could find in London in 1891 is this one, she is a Widow:-

LYONS, Alice Head Widow F 33 1858 Boarding House Keeper
Brighton
Sussex VIEW
LYONS, Peter Son M 5 1886
Lambeth
London VIEW
ANDERSON, Thomas Boarder Single M 34 1857 Clerk
Scotland VIEW
WASHBOURNE, Robert Boarder Single M 25 1866 Publishers Assistant
South Kensington
London VIEW
WASHBOURNE, Thomas Boarder Single M 24 1867 Publishers Assistant
South Kensington
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
408 Folio:
41 Page:
14

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls West Brixton

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
26, Corrance Road, Lambeth County:
London

HTH from Linell.

rootsfinder wrote:Hi all, trying to find information on my great-great grandmother, Alice Lyons neé Burk who was born in London around 1863. She married an Irishman called Thomas Lyons in 1879. Tried looking everywhere for information but because I don't know either of their father's names I have come to a dead end. Any suggestions?

Where did they marry, I can't see a marriage.

Neither can I

I don't actually know where they got married. All I know is that she was from Tottenham Court Road and that she left London with Thomas Lyons when she was 16 years old. Thats all the information that I have.

Did she have any children.

Jimmy wrote:Did she have any children.

You need coffee Jimmy? How else would she get to be a gtgtgrandmother

rootsfinder wrote:I don't actually know where they got married. All I know is that she was from Tottenham Court Road and that she left London with Thomas Lyons when she was 16 years old. Thats all the information that I have.

Where did they go to? and what information do you have on their children?
The best starting point would be to find them in the census, have you done that?

They had 2 children both of whom were born in Ireland (2 daughters, Julia and Mary-my great grandmother). They settled in Derry, Donoughmore, County Cork. I found Alice in the 1911 census, at which stage she was a widow.

rootsfinder wrote:They had 2 children both of whom were born in Ireland (2 daughters, Julia and Mary-my great grandmother). They settled in Derry, Donoughmore, County Cork. I found Alice in the 1911 census, at which stage she was a widow.

Oh dear! Ireland is so tricky due to missing censuses.

The 1871 for England has an Alice Bucks (corrected by someone to Burks) born 1863 - perhaps someone could look that up as a possibility?

have you ruled out the possibility of them marrying in Ireland?

Haven't ruled out that possibility just yet. Unfortunatly I don't know who thomas Lyons' father was

gardener wrote:

rootsfinder wrote:They had 2 children both of whom were born in Ireland (2 daughters, Julia and Mary-my great grandmother). They settled in Derry, Donoughmore, County Cork. I found Alice in the 1911 census, at which stage she was a widow.

Oh dear! Ireland is so tricky due to missing censuses.

The 1871 for England has an Alice Bucks (corrected by someone to Burks) born 1863 - perhaps someone could look that up as a possibility?

have you ruled out the possibility of them marrying in Ireland?

This one?

1871 Ratcliffe Grove, St Luke, London
BURKS, Selina Head F 29 1842 Middlesex Parochial Relief Mar There might be more info in the parish records
BURKS, Selina Daughter F 10 1861 Middlesex
BURKS, Alice Daughter F 8 1863 Middlesex
BURKS, Benjamin Son M 6 1865 Middlesex
BURKS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Middlesex
BURKS, William Son M 1 1870 Middlesex

Selina born Paddington rest St Lukes

Is this a possibility

1871 Northumberland St, Marylebone, London
BURGS, Maryam Head F 42 1829 Bristol Gloucestershire Mar -- Waistcoat maker
BURGS, Thomas Son M 18 1853 London Tailor
BURGS, Emily Daughter F 16 1855 London
BURGS, Louisa Daughter F 14 1857 London
BURGS, Alice Daughter F 9 1862 London

Maths girl wrote:
This one?

1871 Ratcliffe Grove, St Luke, London
BURKS, Selina Head F 29 1842 Middlesex Parochial Relief Mar There might be more info in the parish records
BURKS, Selina Daughter F 10 1861 Middlesex
BURKS, Alice Daughter F 8 1863 Middlesex
BURKS, Benjamin Son M 6 1865 Middlesex
BURKS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Middlesex
BURKS, William Son M 1 1870 Middlesex

Selina born Paddington rest St Lukes

This one is still with Selina in London in 1881

It says on her daughter's birth certificate that her maiden name was Burk.