ARC tbc - Missing Great Great Grandmother

[rootsfinder]

Hi all, trying to find information on my great-great grandmother, Alice Lyons neé Burk who was born in London around 1863. She married an Irishman called Thomas Lyons in 1879. Tried looking everywhere for information but because I don't know either of their father's names I have come to a dead end. Any suggestions?

[linell]

Do you have the Marriage Certificate? If not that would give you their father's names. The only Alice Lyons of about the right age I could find in London in 1891 is this one, she is a Widow:-

LYONS, Alice Head Widow F 33 1858 Boarding House Keeper
Brighton
Sussex VIEW
LYONS, Peter Son M 5 1886
Lambeth
London VIEW
ANDERSON, Thomas Boarder Single M 34 1857 Clerk
Scotland VIEW
WASHBOURNE, Robert Boarder Single M 25 1866 Publishers Assistant
South Kensington
London VIEW
WASHBOURNE, Thomas Boarder Single M 24 1867 Publishers Assistant
South Kensington
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
408 Folio:
41 Page:
14

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls West Brixton

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
26, Corrance Road, Lambeth County:
London

HTH from Linell.

[Jimmy]

Hi all, trying to find information on my great-great grandmother, Alice Lyons neé Burk who was born in London around 1863. She married an Irishman called Thomas Lyons in 1879. Tried looking everywhere for information but because I don't know either of their father's names I have come to a dead end. Any suggestions?

Where did they marry, I can't see a marriage.

[mallosa]

Neither can I

[rootsfinder]

I don't actually know where they got married. All I know is that she was from Tottenham Court Road and that she left London with Thomas Lyons when she was 16 years old. Thats all the information that I have.

[Jimmy]

Did she have any children.

[gardener]

Did she have any children.

You need coffee Jimmy? How else would she get to be a gtgtgrandmother

[gardener]

I don't actually know where they got married. All I know is that she was from Tottenham Court Road and that she left London with Thomas Lyons when she was 16 years old. Thats all the information that I have.

Where did they go to? and what information do you have on their children?
The best starting point would be to find them in the census, have you done that?

[rootsfinder]

They had 2 children both of whom were born in Ireland (2 daughters, Julia and Mary-my great grandmother). They settled in Derry, Donoughmore, County Cork. I found Alice in the 1911 census, at which stage she was a widow.

[gardener]

They had 2 children both of whom were born in Ireland (2 daughters, Julia and Mary-my great grandmother). They settled in Derry, Donoughmore, County Cork. I found Alice in the 1911 census, at which stage she was a widow.

Oh dear! Ireland is so tricky due to missing censuses.

The 1871 for England has an Alice Bucks (corrected by someone to Burks) born 1863 - perhaps someone could look that up as a possibility?

have you ruled out the possibility of them marrying in Ireland?

[rootsfinder]

Haven't ruled out that possibility just yet. Unfortunatly I don't know who thomas Lyons' father was

[Maths girl]

They had 2 children both of whom were born in Ireland (2 daughters, Julia and Mary-my great grandmother). They settled in Derry, Donoughmore, County Cork. I found Alice in the 1911 census, at which stage she was a widow.

Oh dear! Ireland is so tricky due to missing censuses.

The 1871 for England has an Alice Bucks (corrected by someone to Burks) born 1863 - perhaps someone could look that up as a possibility?

have you ruled out the possibility of them marrying in Ireland?

This one?

1871 Ratcliffe Grove, St Luke, London
BURKS, Selina Head F 29 1842 Middlesex Parochial Relief Mar There might be more info in the parish records
BURKS, Selina Daughter F 10 1861 Middlesex
BURKS, Alice Daughter F 8 1863 Middlesex
BURKS, Benjamin Son M 6 1865 Middlesex
BURKS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Middlesex
BURKS, William Son M 1 1870 Middlesex

Selina born Paddington rest St Lukes

[Maths girl]

Is this a possibility

1871 Northumberland St, Marylebone, London
BURGS, Maryam Head F 42 1829 Bristol Gloucestershire Mar -- Waistcoat maker
BURGS, Thomas Son M 18 1853 London Tailor
BURGS, Emily Daughter F 16 1855 London
BURGS, Louisa Daughter F 14 1857 London
BURGS, Alice Daughter F 9 1862 London

[Maths girl]

This one?

1871 Ratcliffe Grove, St Luke, London
BURKS, Selina Head F 29 1842 Middlesex Parochial Relief Mar There might be more info in the parish records
BURKS, Selina Daughter F 10 1861 Middlesex
BURKS, Alice Daughter F 8 1863 Middlesex
BURKS, Benjamin Son M 6 1865 Middlesex
BURKS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Middlesex
BURKS, William Son M 1 1870 Middlesex

Selina born Paddington rest St Lukes

This one is still with Selina in London in 1881

[rootsfinder]

It says on her daughter's birth certificate that her maiden name was Burk.