*ARc pending look up* ---Samuel Rose b abt 1878

[Northern Lass]

Who is this one
thought it was mine but ours is b 1882 and marries an Elizabeth Morris

Can we find this Samuel on prev census
and
1911

1901: 34 Elbow St, Rowley Regis
Solomon Partridge 65 Gen Lab Old Hill
Kezia Partridge 65
Walter Partridge 19 S Coalminer Loader
Samuel Rose 23 M Bricklayers Lab
Hannah Rose 25 M Dau in Law Chainmaker
Hannah Rose 1 Gr. Dau
(all born Old Hill, Staffordshire)

Marriage 1898
ROSE Samuel PARTRIDGE Hannah Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/3/58

[Northern Lass]

This is ours although I am in need of checking that marriage
1901 Census RG13-2735/51 4 Court 1 House Bloomfield Road,Tipton
Samuel Rose,head,m,19,plasterer?s labourer,Sunderland,Durham
Elizabeth Rose,wife,m,20,Parish of Sedgley

(Samuel Rose m Elizabeth Morris 1900 Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box))

[Jimmy]

1881.
Owen ROSE Head M Male 37 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Puddler
Maria ROSE Wife M Female 36 Gloucester, England
Phebe ROSE Daur U Female 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
Mary ROSE Daur U Female 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Chain Maker
John ROSE Son U Male 12 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Thomas ROSE Son U Male 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
William A. ROSE Son U Male 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Samuel ROSE Son U Male 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Phebe WOODALL Mother In Law W Female 75 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Nailer

Halesowen Rd 151.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

[Jimmy]

OWEN ROSE.
MARIA WOODALL.
Marriage, 07 MAY 1865. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

1891. Staffs.
Owen Rose. abt 1844.
Merin Rose. abt 1845. born Gloucestershire.
Thomas Rose. Merin abt 1874.
William Alfred Rose. abt 1876.
Samuel Rose. abt 1878.
France James Rose. abt 1887.

[Northern Lass]

We have Owen on this rings a bell

About Rose, Owen

1891 census, 151 Halesowen Rd,Old Hill
Owen Rose,47,lab in iron works,RR
Maria ditto,46,chain maker,Gloucestershires,NK
Thomas ditto,17,ditto,RR
William Alfred ditto,15,ditto,ditto
Samuel ditto,13,lab in iron works,ditto
Franc(i)s James,4,scholar,ditto
Mary Ann Jeavons,boarder,m,32,chain maker,RR
added by Kate. In the 1851 Owen`s father is Joseph Rose from Gloucestershire and his mother is Mary from Warwickshire

[Northern Lass]

Any clues on the 1911 census for Hannah Partridge and Samuel Rose

so Samuel Rose b abt 1878

might get lucky and have Owen father with them

then I can connect up

[Jimmy]

These appear to be in the same house.
1911. Halesowen Road, Old Hill.
ROSE OWEN. M. 1844. 67.
ROSE ELIZABETH. F. 1860. 51.
ROSE JOHN. M. 1869 42.
ROSE LILY MAY LEE. F. 1908. 3.

[Jimmy]

1901. Rowley Regis. (basics)
Owen Rose. 56. 1845. Colliery Labourer.
Maria Rose. 56. 1845.
James Francis Rose. 14. 1887. Iron Foundry Labourer.

[Jimmy]

These appear to be in the same house.
1911. Halesowen Road, Old Hill.
ROSE OWEN. M. 1844. 67.
ROSE ELIZABETH. F. 1860. 51.
ROSE JOHN. M. 1869 42.
ROSE LILY MAY LEE. F. 1908. 3.

Possible,
West Midlands Marriage 1899.
ROSE John, STRINGER Elizabeth, Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity, Sandwell Register Office. 19/3/152.

[Northern Lass]

I have added that marraige for Samuel rose and for Hannah partridge to see if his father is Owen

might be worth adding that other look up Jimmy and we can see if father for him is Owen too

dont think we can do anymore with this till look up done

flagging to arch pending look up

[Jimmy]

Possible,
West Midlands Marriage 1899.
ROSE John, STRINGER Elizabeth, Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity, Sandwell Register Office. 19/3/152.

Have added this for look up.

[Northern Lass]

This checked out the look up on Samuel Rose and Hannah Partridge for him father is an Owen

could do with more of the census on this thread added for Owen if anyone can


Now on marriage Hannahs father is Samuel but I think that is yet another error!
as look.....


1901: 34 Elbow St, Rowley Regis
Solomon Partridge 65 Gen Lab Old Hill
Kezia Partridge 65
Walter Partridge 19 S Coalminer Loader
Samuel Rose 23 M Bricklayers Lab
Hannah Rose 25 M Dau in Law Chainmaker
Hannah Rose 1 Gr. Dau
(all born Old Hill, Staffordshire)

[FarSide]

1841
Cradley Heath,
Joseph Rose 45 - Labourer - y b in c
Mary Rose 45
John Rose 15 - Forgeman
Joseph Rose 13 - Labourer
Mary Rose 11
Sarah Rose 6
Betsey Rose 2
other n b in c

1851
Congreaves, Rowley
Joseph Rose 53 - Labourer at forge - b Warminster, Gloucestershire
Mary Rose 56 - b Barkswell? Bankswell?, Warwickshire
Sarah Rose 16 - b Stratford Upon Avon - can't make out what's written in the deaf/dumb col
Betsy Rose 12 - b b Stratford Upon Avon
Owen Rose 6 - b Rowley
Daniel Bates 53 - Inmate - Widower - Labourer at forge - b Berkswell? Bankswell, Worcestershire
George Bates 23 - Inmate - unm - Iron puddler - b Yardley, Worcestershire

next door
Phebe Rose 46 - Widow - Ladies Nurse - b Cradley
Benjamin Rose 21 - Roller of iron
Phebe Rose 13
Joseph Rose 12
Eliza Rose 10
others b Rowley
this family here on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =349018722

1861 - don't see them

1871
New Town, Rowley
Owen Rose 27 - Puddler
Maria Rose 27 - b Gloucester
Phebe Rose 5
Mary Rose 4
John Rose 2
others b Rowley

1881
151 Halesowen Road, Rowley
Owen Rose 37 - Puddler
Maria Rose 36 - b Gloucester
Phebe Rose 15 - Chainmaker
Mary Rose 14 - Chainmaker
John Rose 12
Thomas Rose 7
William A. Rose 5
Samuel Rose 3
Phebe Woodall 75 - Mother in law - Widow - Nailer
others b Rowley

[FarSide]

Just to confuse things or make them more interesting.. off the RR disc, could Ann be sis to Joseph
12 May 1844 Owen, of Ann Rose, Cradley Heath [Blank}