Louisa Matthews/ Bache

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1841 Two Gates Cradley
Noah Bache 60 Gardener Born in County
Sarah Bache 60 Born in County
Louisa Matthews 11 F S Born in County
Next door
Josh Bache 90 Nailer Born in County

1851 Two Gates Cradley
Noah Bache Head 74 Master Gardener Born Cradley
Louisa Bache Wife 20 Born Cradley
Josh Bache Son 1 Born Cradley

Next Door is James Pearson and Family
James Pearson Head 67 Ag Lab Born Delph
Ann Pearson Wife 53 Born Lye Waste
Ambros Pearson Son 20 Born Cradley (Cant read occ)
Barnabas Pearson Son 18 Chain Maker Born Cradley
Willm Pearson Son 12 Chain Maker Born Cradley
Noah Pearson Son 9 Chain Maker Born Cradley

1861 Oldnal Cradley
Noah Backe Head 85 Master Gardener Born Netherton
Loisa Backe Wife 30 Born Cradley
Joseph Backe Son 11 Coal Labourer Born Cradley
Thomas Backe Son 8 Scholar Born Cradley
Clara A Backe Daur. 4 Scholar Born Cradley
Sarah Backe Daur. 1 Born Cradley


I've found Ambrose Pearson married to Louisa Bache
1862 Stourbridge Registry Office(Will send for Cert)

This is them 1871
Two Lanes End Cradley
Ambrose Pearson Head 40 Clerk Born Cradley
Louisa Pearson Wife 40 Born Netherton
Joseph Bache Step Son 21 Puddler Born Cradley
Thomas Bache Step Son 17 Apprentice to Roll Turner Born Cradley
Sarah B Pearson Step Daur. 11 Scholar Born Cradley
Samuel B Pearson Step Son 8 Scholar Born Cradley
Laura Pearson Daur. 7 Scholar Born Cradley
Caleb Pearson Son 4 Scholar Born Cradley
Ann Buck Servant 17 General Servant Born Quarry Bank

1881 Netherend Cradley
Ambrose Pearson Head 50 Farmer 19 Acres Employing 2 Boys Born Cradley
Louisa Pearson Wife 50 Born Netherton
Sarah Pearson Daur. 21 Dress and Matle Maker Born Cradley
Laura Pearson Daur. 16 Pupil Teacher Born Cradley
Caleb Pearson Son 14 Scholar Born Cradley
Louisa Pearson Daur. 10 Scholar Born Cradley
Thomas Bache Step son 27 Roll Turner Born Cradley

1891 Netehrend Cradley
Ambrose Pearson Head 60 Farmer and Tax Collector Born Cradley
Louisa Pearson Wife 60 Born Netherton
Caleb Pearson Son 25 Farmers Assistant Born Cradley
Laura Pearson Daur. 27 Assistant Governess School Born Cradley
Louisa Pearson Daur. 12 Born Cradley
Jane Horton Visitor 27 Assitant Governess School Born West Bromwich
James Morgan Boarder 18 Farm Labourer Born Bromsgrove

Found this Christening
LOUISA MATTHEWS
Christening: 15 AUG 1830 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS MATTHEWS
Mother: MARY ANN

and this marriage
THOMAS MATTHEWS
Spouse: MARY BACHE
Marriage: 08 DEC 1827 Clent, Worcester, England

Is Mary somehow connected to Noah

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1848
BACHE Noah MATTHEWS Louisa Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/1/413

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extracted

NOAH BACHE
Christening: 25 DEC 1814 Cradley, Worcester,
Death: 09 JAN 1815

JOSEPH BACHE
Christening: 25 DEC 1814 Cradley, Worcester,
Death: 28 DEC 1814


parents

noah and sarah

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poss 1st marriage

NOAH BACHE
SARAH FLETCHER
Marriage: 12 JAN 1807 Kingswinford, Stafford

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poss 1st marriage

NOAH BACHE
SARAH FLETCHER
Marriage: 12 JAN 1807 Kingswinford, Stafford

12 Jan 1807
Noah Beache, otp & Sarah Fletcher, otp
by banns
Wit - Wm Fletcher & Susannah Billingham

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May already have this
From notebook 1857

Park Lane
170
Bache
Noah Gardener, Wesl sacr.
Louise No ch[urch]
Joseph 8, Oct, un sch, un sc free.
Thomas 4, May.
Clara Ann, 1, May.

172
Pearson
James Roads, N Con sacr.
Ann N Con sacr.
Ambrose, 25, iron, unit[arian], (being brought up in sc[hool]).
William, 19, chains, ch.

173
Bache
Samuel collier, N Con sacr.
Elizabeth N Con sacr. pia dau[ghte]r of 172
Lousia, 9 May, N Con sch, nat sch.
Mary Ann, 5 Dec, N Con sch
Samuel, 1, now bap by JHT.

174
Pearson
James Collier, no ch, no clothes. Son of 172.
Sarah no ch, no clothes.
Luke Cox, 14, pits, sch, burnt 1857.
Daniel Cox, 11, chains, sch, no clothes.
Mercy, 7, Mar, no sch, nurse, no clothes.
Maria, 5, no sch, no clothes.
Eliza, 3.
James, 0, May. unbap

180
Pearson
Thomas Nailer, son of 172
Martha
Ann, 13 May, nails
Ambrose, 9, Feb, nails, N Con sch
Mercy, 4, March, N Con sch
Elizabeth, 3, Feb, N Con sch
Barnabas Jabez, 1, Apr.


Key
Wesl[eyan] sacr[ament
N[ew] Con[nexion] sacr[ament]
nat[tional] sc[hool].
un[itarian] sch[ool], un[itarian] sc[hool] free.

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Extracted
SAMUEL BACHE
Christening: 30 MAR 1823 Halesowen, Worcester
Parents:
Mother: MARY ANN BACHE

30 Mar 1823
Samuel, illegitimate, so, Mary Ann Bache, Publician, Cradley

Poss same Mary?

and this marriage
THOMAS MATTHEWS
Spouse: MARY BACHE
Marriage: 08 DEC 1827 Clent, Worcester, England

back to the drawing board..

They are living 2 doors away from James & Ann Pearson

1841
Richard Bache 60 - Publican
Ann Bache 60 - n b in c
Richd Bache 20
Pheby Bache 25
Saml Bache 15
others b in c

1847
BACHE Samuel PEARSON Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/008/320

1851
Two Gates, Cradley
Samuel Bache 28 - Coalminer
Elizabeth Bache 24 - Nailer
Louisa Bache 2
Alfred Bache 2 Mo
all b Rowley

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I've found Ambrose Pearson married to Louisa Bache
1862 Stourbridge Registry Office(Will send for Cert)

In 1863
Ambrose & Louisa were living together, the old vicar wrote (Greek TTOP) next to Louisa, the entry reads
Park Lane
205
Louisa, Widow, ttop, no ch, sister of SB any idea who this is?
Joseph, 14, Oct, iron, un sch.
Thomas, 10 May, un sch free.
Clara, 7, May, un sch.
Sarah, 3, Jan.
Samuel, 1, May, unb
maid Eliza Dunn, 16, May, sch, dau of 226. (Eliza is my 2GG aunt)

same house
Pearson Ambrose.

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I've found Ambrose Pearson married to Louisa Bache
1862 Stourbridge Registry Office(Will send for Cert)

In 1863
Ambrose & Louisa were living together, the old vicar wrote (Greek TTOP) next to Louisa, the entry reads
Park Lane
205
Louisa, Widow, ttop, no ch, sister of SB any idea who this is?
Joseph, 14, Oct, iron, un sch.
Thomas, 10 May, un sch free.
Clara, 7, May, un sch.
Sarah, 3, Jan.
Samuel, 1, May, unb
maid Eliza Dunn, 16, May, sch, dau of 226. (Eliza is my 2GG aunt)

same house
Pearson Ambrose.

The way i see it is SB is Samuel Bache, so did his mother Mary Ann Bache marry Thomas Matthews and have Louisa

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Poss, wasn't Noah's father Joseph/Josh
Extracted
MARY ANN BAKES
Christening: About 24 MAR 1805 Sedgley, Stafford
Parents:
Father: JOSH. BAKES
Mother: SARAH

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Does Richard Bache married to Ann tie all the Baches together ?

MARY ANN BACHE --------------- Was this Samuels mother who then marrird Thomas Matthews
SAMUEL BACHE
Christening: 30 MAR 1823 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Mother: Mary Ann Bache

MARY ANN BACHE
Christening: 24 MAY 1801 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

RICHARD BACHE
Christening: 17 OCT 1819 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

SARAH BACHE
Christening: 28 APR 1816 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

LUCY BACHE
Christening: 26 DEC 1802 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

ELIZABETH BACKE
Christening 12 APR 1807 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

PHOEBE BACHE
Christening: 07 JUN 1812 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

REBEKAH BACHE
Christening 09 OCT 1814 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN

NOAH BACHE
Christening: 13 JAN 1811 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father: RICHARD BACHE
Mother: ANN
Death: 12 FEB 1811

1841
Richard Bache 60 - Publican
Ann Bache 60 - n b in c
Richd Bache 20
Pheby Bache 25
Saml Bache 15 Is he grandson ?
others b in c

1871 Two GatesCradley
Samuel Bache Head 48 Labourer Born Cradley
Elizabeth Bache Wife 44 Born Lye
Thomas Bache Son 11 Scholar Born Cradley
James Pearsell Father in Law 89 Widr. Visitor Born Delph
Richard Bache Uncle 51 Labourer Born Cradley Is this Mary Anns brother?

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Re: UPDATE LOOK UP FOR KDW...St Giles RR Look up
by Northern Lass » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:24 pm

11 Dec 1848 St Giles Rowley Regis<br>
Noah X Bache of full age widr Farmer of Windmill end son of Joseph a nailer<br>
Louisa X Matthews 19 spinster of Windmill End dau of Thomas a Collier<br>
banns<br>
Wit- James Pearson X / Ann Pearson X

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Starting to add info

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Added Louisa Here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =286333491

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Based on this from vicars notebook 1863 can we join up Samuel and Louisa

205
Bache Louisa Widow ttop = Greek word for porn(Usually used by Thompson to describe unmarried couples living together or parents of children born out of wedlock.There are occasion where the word might indicate that a couple are having an illicit affair, or that the woman was engaged in prostitution)No church sister of SB 208
Pearson Ambrose

SB 208
Bache Samuel New Connexion
Elizabeth New Connexion Sacrament Daughter of 207
3 Children
Louisa 15 May Home New Connexion Night School
Mary Ann 11 Dec New Connexion School No School Interested
Thomas 4 Sept New Connexion

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Looks good doesn't kdw
On those later baps for Richard & Ann's kids he's a Victualler