*Archived*-John Tromans b abt 1816 & family

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**PART OF THE MONTHLY "WOTS IN A NAME " topic- TROMANS.



here there marriage

JOHN ROUND
MARTHA TROWMAN
Marriage: 25 DEC 1872 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

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this might poss be them ?

1881 census

34 Hawe Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

John ROUND 36 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer (General)
Martha ROUND 34 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
John ROUND 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

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dont know if this means anything but neighbours for john and matha

all 1881
one side of 34

35 Hawe Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford, England


Timothy TROMAN 43 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Eliza TROMAN 44 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Joseph TROMAN 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Hannah TROMAN 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Dressmaker
William TROMAN 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
John TROMAN 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Eliza TROMAN 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Alice TROMAN 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Thomas TROMAN 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar



36 Hawe Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford


Joseph RUSTON 42 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Drain Pipe Setter At Pottery
Martha RUSTON 39 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
William RUSTON 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Pipe Burner At Pottery
Ann RUSTON 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Joseph RUSTON 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer At Pottery
Thomas RUSTON 12 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
James RUSTON 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Alfred RUSTON 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
John RUSTON 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Matilda RUSTON 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Samuel RUSTON 1 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


and finally

37 Hawe Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

William TROMAN 41 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Stone Squarer (Quarry)
Nancy TROMAN 41 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
James UNDERWOOD Lodger 38 Northampton, Labourer At Stone Quarry



the other side of 34


32 Hawe Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford


George TROMAN 56 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Phoebe TROMAN 49 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Benjamin TROMAN 26 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Alice TROMAN 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
John TROMAN 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, E Jews Harp Maker
George TROMAN 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Thomas TROMAN 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford,Jews Harp Maker
Ann TROMAN Da 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Pheobe TROMAN 8 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
David TROMAN 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar




house 34 and 32 heads both jews harp makers wonder if these tromans are family with martha maybe sister?

[Northern Lass]

nothing stands out for that family... but could relate somehow.... hey who's gonna put that lot on!


Ok will look up the Martha one.... wot about the last one....come on Eliza who did she marry?????

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bingo robbie i win



look what ive found went for a walk

1881 census

21 Hawes Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

John TROMAN 65 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Ann TROMAN 72 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
William ROUND Grandson 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar

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bingo robbie i win



look what ive found went for a walk

1881 census

21 Hawes Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

John TROMAN 65 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Ann TROMAN 72 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
William ROUND Grandson 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar

right can some one find early census with john and ann so we can find out who the kids are

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1861 census
John TROMANS jew harp maker b RR 1816
Ann TROMANS 1809
Hannah 1836
Ann 1839
Mary 1845
Martha 1848
Rhoda 1853
Living Private House Hawes Lane RR

[Northern Lass]

here there marriage

JOHN ROUND
MARTHA TROWMAN
Marriage: 25 DEC 1872 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

Ok so we are looking at this couple.

I will look up at the archives the marriage but we now have another contender .
this Martha may have parents John Tromans and Ann.
So can we run with this family and see wot we find then come back to those others Pete found too.


1881 census
21 Hawes Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

John TROMAN 65 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Jews Harp Maker
Ann TROMAN 72 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
William ROUND Grandson 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar

1881 census

34 Hawe Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

John ROUND 36 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer (General)
Martha ROUND 34 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
John ROUND 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
this might poss be them ?

then RG found

1861 census
John TROMANS jew harp maker b RR 1816
Ann TROMANS 1809
Hannah 1836
Ann 1839
Mary 1845
Martha 1848
Rhoda 1853
Living Private House Hawes Lane RR

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this looks like a poss marriage

JOHN TROWMANS
ANN WESTWOOD
Marriage: 25 DEC 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

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think this might poss be him

JOHN TREWMANS
Birth: 28 FEB 1816
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

BENJN. TREWMANS
HANH.


the reason why he has a sisters rhoda, mary and ann, rhoda is not a common name?

name his kids rhoda, mary and ann,

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here the sisters all christend the same day

JOHN TREWMANS
Birth: 28 FEB 1816
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

ANN TREWMANS
Birth: 19 APR 1818
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

MARY TREWMANS
Birth: 16 MAR 1820
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

RHODA TREWMANS
Birth: 30 MAY 1822
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

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1841 census
John TROMANS 1816
Nanney 1811
Hannah 1835
Timothy 1837
Ann 1839
Alice 1840
PHEOBE WESTWOOD 1831

[Northern Lass]

this looks like a poss marriage

JOHN TROWMANS
ANN WESTWOOD
Marriage: 25 DEC 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

think we might have a connection on BCC with this one...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =554320848

wot we think guys start from there and add?

cant see a John on that fits can anyone else?

[Rosegarden]

Looks like a connection to me and with Pheobe her sister with her in 1841 census
1841 Census in the same st
Benjamin TROMANS 50 harp maker
Ann 20
Rhoda 15
George 15
James 14
Hannah 12
Mary TROMANS 20
William 1

[Northern Lass]

1841 census
John TROMANS 1816
Nanney 1811
Hannah 1835
Timothy 1837
Ann 1839
Alice 1840
PHEOBE WESTWOOD 1831

So is that Timothy that is on the census living near John and Marth?
a son for Johns so sons John and Timothy.
Who is Nanney 1811 is that Ann Westwood?
who is Phoebe a dau ? in which case has Ann westwood been married prev? so maybe not that one on Connections?