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Gardener and I have this Ann Woodhouse married to William Rose
it is a bit of a brickwall and I may move it there later..couldn't see it on there.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =188434048

We think her parents are this couple
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =935482291

but it is a nightmare!

and...

this couple and all the kids need adding....via our own findings ..that website in notes is just to show alternative research.

These Woodhouses need sorting out.

bit by bit

but how does ours link...fresh pair of eyes and all that


In 1841 Samuel son is living with Woodhouses

Extracted,

ANN WOODHOUSE.
Christening, 17 APR 1796. Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Parents:
BENJAMIN WOODHOUSE.
MARY.
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Someone as this on, Submission Search: 4126294-1201106125311.

Ann Woodhouse.

Birth: 17 Apr 1796. Rowley Regis.
Parents.
Father: Benjamin Woodhouse.
Mother: Mary Thompson.
Marriage(s)
Spouse: John Royall.
Marriage: 3 Jan 1822.

hmmm....can't get my head round this at the mo
just thought I would chuck it in...

the key to it we think is this 1841 census where son of William Rose and Ann Woodhouse is living
with Woodhouses
Sarah Woodhouse married Elijah Jones
and there is a John Woodhouse too

1841 Census,( HO107/997/5-29 Cradley Heath)
Joseph Troman,25,nailor,y
Sarah ditto,25,y
Thomas ditto,2,y
Elijah Jones,50,publican,y
Sarah ditto,45,y Born 1792-1796 (ages over 15 rounded down to nearest 5 in 1841 census)
Samuel ditto,20,chain maker,y
Joseph ditto,20,y
-Samuel Rose,12,n
John Woodhouse,55,nailor,n Born 1782-1786 (ages over 15 rounded down to nearest 5 )
Ann Stafford,20,F S,y
Joseph ditto,6m,y

Argh Jimmy!!!! Not another one!

OK.
The marriage Jimmy found was

Halesowen 3 Jan 1822

Ann Woodhouse sp
John Royall ba

Witnesses J Homer and Mercy Royall

I think Mercy was John's sister:

IGI, parents John/Mary Royall

John Royall 5th Oct 1794
Mercy Royall 25th Dec 1800


1861 census
Dudley, Angels Yard
John Royall 66
Hannah Royall 58

1851
Spring Gardens, Dudley
John Royall 56 cordwainer Dudley
Hannah Royall wife 48 London


Hmmm. Is that the pair or not?
Can anyone find another couple? Hannah is born a bit late to be Ann Woodhouse born 1796.

I hate the Woodhouses



Mercy Royall seems to have married Joseph Darby 6 Feb 1826 SThomas Dudley

So far gardener I havn't found any that links to me.

This is extracted.

JOHN ROYALL.
ANN WOODHOUSE.
Marriage, 03 JAN 1822. Halesowen, Worcester.

There is also this one,
JOHN ROYLE.
ANN OLARENSHAW.
Marriage, 04 SEP 1826. Halesowen, Worcester.

Jimmy wrote:There is also this one,
JOHN ROYLE.
ANN OLARENSHAW.
Marriage, 04 SEP 1826. Halesowen, Worcester.

This one is also down as a bach.

Can anyone find the 1841?
John Royall/Royal/Royale
with wife Ann/Hannah

Possibles:

John Royal
Birth: abt 1791 - Worcestershire, England

John Royall
Birth: abt 1781 living Worcsestershire

John Royall
Birth: abt 1796 - Worcestershire,

Jimmy wrote:So far gardener I havn't found any that links to me.

So that makes you perfect as an unbiased researcher....sort it out then

I am going to move this to brickwalls so we can delve at it when we want
cos I am dying to see who she is
I know we had to link Sarah and John and Joseph to the family
but that bapt could be ours and maybe Sarah is from another family

Woodhouses!
don't you just love em!

Ok So why cant this be our Ann Woodhouse?

Extracted,

ANN WOODHOUSE.
Christening, 17 APR 1796. Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Parents:
BENJAMIN WOODHOUSE.
MARY.

Samuel Rose in 1841...with Woodhouses

1841 Cradley Heath
Joseph Troman,25,nailor,y
Sarah ditto,25,y
Thomas ditto,2,y
-Elijah Jones,50,publican,y
Sarah ditto,45,y Born 1792-1796 (ages over 15 rounded down to nearest 5 in 1841 census)
Samuel ditto,20,chain maker,y
Joseph ditto,20,y
-Samuel Rose,12,n -John Woodhouse,55,nailor,n Born 1782-1786 (ages over 15 rounded down to nearest 5 )
Ann Stafford,20,F S,y
Joseph ditto,6m,y

1851 Rowley Regis,Reddal Hill
Sch no 129,Five Ways
Emmanuel Woodhouse,head,m,38,chain maker,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse,wife,m,29,at home,Staffs, Rowley Regis
Mary Woodhouse,dau,u,4, at home,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse,dau,3, at home,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse,son,1, at home, Staffs,Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts,lodger,u,28, chain maker,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose,lodger,u,22, chain maker,Worcester,Dudley

I think we need to look at these Woodhouses again

gardener wrote:

Jimmy wrote:There is also this one,
JOHN ROYLE.
ANN OLARENSHAW.
Marriage, 04 SEP 1826. Halesowen, Worcester.

This one is also down as a bach.

Can anyone find the 1841?
John Royall/Royal/Royale
with wife Ann/Hannah

Possibles:

John Royal
Birth: abt 1791 - Worcestershire, England

John Royall
Birth: abt 1781 living Worcsestershire

John Royall
Birth: abt 1796 - Worcestershire,

I may have missed something but why are we looking for Ann/Hannah born London?? Their marriage says both otp
also says (Off. min) not sure what this means

You've probably already seen this one - diff in age is about right, but Waring?? They looked to be in the same household
1841
Church Street, Dudley
John Royall 45 - Shoe m
Ann Wariny 35 - FS (looks like Waring on the image)
all b in c

Northern Lass wrote:1851 Rowley Regis,Reddal Hill
Sch no 129,Five Ways
Emmanuel Woodhouse,head,m,38,chain maker,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse,wife,m,29,at home,Staffs, Rowley Regis
Mary Woodhouse,dau,u,4, at home,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse,dau,3, at home,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse,son,1, at home, Staffs,Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts,lodger,u,28, chain maker,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose,lodger,u,22, chain maker,Worcester,Dudley

Looking at my notes and the image again, I think that this census should read:

1851 Census
At Four Ways, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Woodhouse Head 30 Chain Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse Wife 29 b. Rowley Regis
Mary Woodhouse Daur 4 b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse Son 1 b. Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts Lodger 28 b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose Lodger 22 b, Worcester, Dudley
Joseph Willetts Lodger 12 b. Rowley Regis (on next page)

Emanuel appears to be the son of Benjamin Woodhouse and Mary Brownhill who married 29 Oct 1820 at Halesowen.
Emanuel was married to Ann Willetts on 27 Oct 1845 at St. Thomas, Dudley (Wheee ... Woodhouses and Willetts in one thread!!! )
Eli Willetts is Ann's brother.

But your Ann is too old to be the daughter of Benjamin Woodhouse & Mary Brownhill.
She is more contemporary with this Benjamin.

Maybe useful
RR disc
Baptisms
8 Jun 1785 Elizabeth, d of Benn & Mary Woodhouse
30 Dec 1787 William, s of Benn & Mary Woodhouse
9 Jan 1791 Hannah, d of Benn & Mary Woodhouse
25 Aug 1793 Mary, d of Benjn & Mary Woodhouse
17 Apr 1796 Ann, d of Benjamin & Mary Woodhouse
4 Nov 1798 John, s of Benjamin & Mary Woodhouse
29 Mar 1801 (Blank), s of Benjn & Mary Woodhouse
22 Jan 1804 Susa., d of Ben & Mary Woodhouse
16 Feb 1806 Benjn, s of Benjn & Mary Woodhouse

Burial
19 Jul 1794 Sarah, d of Benjamin & Mary Woodhouse

Jimmy wrote:Extracted,

ANN WOODHOUSE.
Christening, 17 APR 1796. Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Parents:
BENJAMIN WOODHOUSE.
MARY.
----------------------
Someone as this on, Submission Search: 4126294-1201106125311.

Ann Woodhouse.

Birth: 17 Apr 1796. Rowley Regis.
Parents.
Father: Benjamin Woodhouse.
Mother: Mary Thompson.
Marriage(s)
Spouse: John Royall.
Marriage: 3 Jan 1822.

21 Feb 1785
Benjamin Woodhouse, b & Mary Tompson, sp
Wit - James James