*Arc tbc* ------Rollason query

[mallosa]

Just noticed we have this Birth Cert info in 'Certificate Exchange' and decided to see if she was connected to my Rollason's.....

Birth 1863
ROLLASON, Rosannah Elizabeth B 21st April 1863

Reg district Dudley, sub-district Dudley, County of Worceste
Father: John ROLLASON, carpenter journeyman
Mother: Rachel ROLLASON formerly MORGAN
Informant: X the mark of Rachel ROLLASON, mother, Primrose Hill Dudley
Registered on: 20th May 1863

Death 1863
ROLLASON Rosannah E Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/051/87

Her parents...
Marriage 1860
ROLLASON John TURTON Rebecca Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/019/187

Q: Rachel ROLLASON formerly MORGAN???


1861: Perrott Street, Oldbury
Entry 76
John Rollason 23 Head M Boatbuilder born Oldbury, Worcestershire
Rebecca Rollason 23 Wife M born Oldbury

Entry 75
John Turton 67 Head M Boatman born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Mary Turton 66 Wife M born Oldbury
Phebe Stevens 11 Gr.Daughter Dressmaker born Oldbury

Entry 77
Mary Morgan 66 Head Wid Shopkeeper born Lanred, North Wales
Thomas Saunet 27 Lodger
Janet Shakespear 10 Gr.Daughter born Oldbury

Something not right here, can anyone work it out?

I'll add the marriage to look ups anyway

[Dennis]

It's Perrott Street, Oldbury, San, there was a Perrott Arms pub nearby, now derelict. I've a William Rollason b. abt 1868 Oldbury m. Fanny Elizabeth Plant b. abt 1871 in 1894 West Brom, if that's any use!

[mallosa]

Thanks for putting me right Dennis, I've altered it now

Have you got the parents for your William?

[peterd]

san john and rachel wernt married until 1863

MORGAN Rachel ROLINSON John 1863 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/003/336



Birth 1863
ROLLASON, Rosannah Elizabeth B 21st April 1863

Reg district Dudley, sub-district Dudley, County of Worceste
Father: John ROLLASON, carpenter journeyman
Mother: Rachel ROLLASON formerly MORGAN
Informant: X the mark of Rachel ROLLASON, mother, Primrose Hill Dudley
Registered on: 20th May 1863

[peterd]

poss

1881 Church Hills, Dudley, Worcester

John ROLINSON 44 Kingswinford, Worcester, Carpenter Journeyman
Rachel ROLINSON 39 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas ROLINSON 16 Netherton, Worcester, Bricklayers Labourer
Elizebeth ROLINSON 12 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Rose ROLINSON 11 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Mary Jane ROLINSON 9 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Rachel ROLINSON 7 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
John ROLINSON 4 Netherton, Worcester,
Martha ROLINSON 1 Netherton, Worcester,

[peterd]

5 doors down

1881 Church Hills, Dudley, Worcester,

Joseph ROLLINSON 31 Dudley, Worcester, Bricklayer Labourer
Emma ROLLINSON 31 Dudley, Worcester, Nail Maker
Ruth ROLLINSON 11 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Emma ROLLINSON 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Maryann ROLLINSON 6 Netherton, Worcester,
Ann ROLLINSON 4 Netherton, Worcester,
Alice ROLLINSON 7 m Netherton, Worcester,

[mallosa]

thanks Pete! I'll have a look at this later, I'm in the gallery at the moment

[Maths girl]

?

Did John Rollason marry Rebecca Turton in 1860 --she died soonish so that he could marry Rachel Morgan before the birth of their first child Rosannah ?? working his way along the street??

Would need death of Rebecca Rollason!

[mallosa]

san john and rachel wernt married until 1863

MORGAN Rachel ROLINSON John 1863 Dudley, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 202/003/336



Birth 1863
ROLLASON, Rosannah Elizabeth B 21st April 1863

Reg district Dudley, sub-district Dudley, County of Worceste
Father: John ROLLASON, carpenter journeyman
Mother: Rachel ROLLASON formerly MORGAN
Informant: X the mark of Rachel ROLLASON, mother, Primrose Hill Dudley
Registered on: 20th May 1863

Oh no!! I think I had a senior moment there Pete

Got Rachel and Rebecca mixed up, along with everything else Still, it wont go to waste

[Dennis]

This is the family group I have, San, my connection is through the Plants:

Descendants of Reuben Rollason

Generation No. 1

1. REUBEN1 ROLLASON was born Abt. Mar 1846 in Oldbury, Worcestershire. He married ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1832 in Oldbury, Worcestershire.

Child of REUBEN ROLLASON and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN is:
2. i. WILLIAM2 ROLLASON, b. Abt. 1868, Oldbury, Worcestershire; d. Aft. 1911.


Generation No. 2

2. WILLIAM2 ROLLASON (REUBEN1) was born Abt. 1868 in Oldbury, Worcestershire, and died Aft. 1911. He married FANNY ELIZABETH PLANT 1894 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, daughter of MANASSAH PLANT and RUTH ROLLASON. She was born 03 Mar 1871 in Dudley Port, Staffordshire, and died Aft. 1911.

Notes for WILLIAM ROLLASON:
In 1911 census "Bricklayer out of work (House)", aged 43, living at 44, Pleasant Street, West Bromwich with wife and children, Reuben, aged 16, "Wood Turner", Ruth, 13, "Printer (Press)".

Children of WILLIAM ROLLASON and FANNY PLANT are:
i. REUBEN3 ROLLASON, b. Abt. 1895, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1911.
ii. RUTH ROLLASON, b. Abt. 1898, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1911.
iii. WILLIAM ROLLASON, b. Abt. 1901, West Bromwich, Staffordshire; d. Aft. 1911.

[mallosa]

Thanks Dennis, I can't see an obvious connection at the mo but have made a note

[Northern Lass]

still running or can we archive

[mallosa]

I'll await the result of the marriage look up before adding

so you can archive it for now NL, please

[Northern Lass]

Ok the look up has been done for Mally on this by RF

but I think you were after a Rachel Morgan
and you put this marriage against this thread

so I am just bringing this back re opening new thread on this one
so if you still need the RAchel Morgan one in 1863 can you check it is not already on
then add it

will archive this tomoz

[Northern Lass]

?

Did John Rollason marry Rebecca Turton in 1860 --she died soonish so that he could marry Rachel Morgan before the birth of their first child Rosannah ?? working his way along the street??

Would need death of Rebecca Rollason!

this sounds good