*Arc tbc* ----Alfred Gough b abt 1864

[Northern Lass]

Have done a look up for Annie
it checked out but is his second marriage
I need to know his first marriage and the mother of Annie Elizabeth

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=99009265

will add marriage here and put on bcc
keep this thread for Alfred will open a new one for Florence Snow

12 Dec 1909 St James Rounds Green ( Oldbury) <br>
Alfred Gough - 35 widower- moulder- 8 Portway Road- Thomas Gough- miner<br>
Florence Eva Snow- 35- spinster- 8 Portway Road- Stephen Henry Snow ( deceased) - Farmer<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit- Henry Gough/ Phoebe Franks

for info I checked out an Alfred Gough marrying 1917 and 1919 and they had different fathers not Thomas

Annie do you have father as Thomas for your Alfred as that was the question you asked on look up

so just want to verify that
but the occup for Alfred was good

[Northern Lass]

here is link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =441720730

can we find Annie Gough dau and father Alfred on prev census to get mothers name

[Jimmy]

is this him. says married but no wife with him.
1901. Ashton in Makerfield.
Alfred Gough 28. born Dudley. coal miner hewer.
Edith Gough 8. born Wigan.
Annie Gough 4.
Ethel Gough 2.
Elizth Gough 1 month.
Ellen Stanley 22. servant.

Other kids born Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire,

[kdw]

This could be him
1901 14 Highfield Street Holy Trinity Coventry
Alfred Hy Hawtin Head 32 Moulders Labourer Botn Oxon
Fanny Jane Hawtin Wife 25 Born Warwickshire
Edith Beatrice Hawtin Daur. 2 Born Coventry
Elsie Winifred Hawtin Daur. 1 Born Coventry
Alfred Gough Boarder S. 27 Iron Moulder Born Oldbury

1891 9 Albion Street Rowley Regis
Thomas Gough Head 43 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Fanny Gough Wife 39 Born Tipton
Alfred Gough Son 17 Iron Moulder Born Oldbury
Thomas Gough Son 14 Iron Moulders Labourer Rowley Regis
William Gough Son 12 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Florence Gough Daur. 7 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Henry Gough Son 5 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Kate Gough Daur. 2 Born Rowley Regis

1881 Albion Street Rowley Regis
Thomas Gough Head 32 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Fanny Gough Wife 27 Born Tipton
Alfred Gough Son 7 Scholar Born Oldbury
Thomas Gough Son 4 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
William Gough Son 2 Born Rowley Regis
Fanny Gough Daur. 2 Mths Born Rowley Regis

[kdw]

Im confussed with this if Alfred was 35 when he married Florence he would have been born abt 1874 he couldnt have had a child 1880 could he ?

Is this the marriage for Annie
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1912
GOUGH Annie E SUTTON James B Smethwick, Old Church Sandwell Register Office 2/5/262

[kdw]

There is this Alfred with daughter Annie

1901 Birmingham
Alfred Gough Head 43 Iron Moulder Born Cookley Kidderminster
Lucy Gough Wife 44 Born Cookley Kidderminster
Albert Gough Son 22 Iron Moulder Born Cookley Kidderminster
Annie Gough Daur. 18 Press worker ? Born Cookley Kidderminster
Nellie Gough Daur. 16 Jeweller Gold Born Birmingham
Alfred Gough Son 6 Born Birmingham
Hary Gough Son 3 Born Birmingham
Rose Lock Boarder 22 Press Worker? Born Birmingham

[Annie]

Have done a look up for Annie
it checked out but is his second marriage
I need to know his first marriage and the mother of Annie Elizabeth
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=99009265
will add marriage here and put on bcc
keep this thread for Alfred will open a new one for Florence Snow
12 Dec 1909 St James Rounds Green ( Oldbury) <br>
Alfred Gough - 35 widower- moulder- 8 Portway Road- Thomas Gough- miner<br>
Florence Eva Snow- 35- spinster- 8 Portway Road- Stephen Henry Snow ( deceased) - Farmer<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit- Henry Gough/ Phoebe Franks
for info I checked out an Alfred Gough marrying 1917 and 1919 and they had different fathers not Thomas
Annie do you have father as Thomas for your Alfred as that was the question you asked on look up
so just want to verify that
but the occup for Alfred was good

Hi Northern Lass the Alfred Gough that connects to me is Alfred born 1891 West Bromwich , his father was Thomas Gough born 1864 West Bromwich and his mother was Sophia Johnson born 1865 Poplar Midd.

Both Alfred and his father Thomas was labourer.This is them in 1911

1911 : 12 Bowater St West Bromwich
GOUGH, Thomas Head Married
27 years M 50 1861 Labourer West Bromwich Staffs
GOUGH, Sophia Wife Married F 49 1862 London Clapton
GOUGH, Annie Daughter Single F 24 1887 Machinist West Bromwich Staffs
GOUGH, Alfred Son Single M 20 1891 Labourer General West Bromwich Staf fs
GOUGH, Harriet Daughter Single F 18 1893 Machinist West Bromwich Staf
GOUGH, Thomas Son Single M 16 1895 Safe Worker West Bromwich Staffs
GOUGH, John William Son M 13 1898 School West Bromwich Staffs
GOUGH, Sophia Daughter F 12 1899 School West Bromwich Staffs
GOUGH, May Daughter F 10 1901 School West Bromwich Staffs
BURBRIDGE, Isaac Relative Widower M 70 1841 None West Bromwich Staffs

Annie

[Annie]

So not to confuse the Alfred born 1874 that northern lass looked up was something I was doing for the BCC from an artical from Bugle , so shall I add all that lovely information.

Annie

[Northern Lass]

Im confussed with this if Alfred was 35 when he married Florence he would have been born abt 1874 he couldnt have had a child 1880 could he ?

Is this the marriage for Annie
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1912
GOUGH Annie E SUTTON James B Smethwick, Old Church Sandwell Register Office 2/5/262

I am real confused now

so how have we got that annie born 1880....?

[kdw]

So is this yopur family in 1901 Annie
104 Richard Street West Bromwich
Thomas Gough Head 39 Iron Foundry Labourer Born West Bromwich
Sophia Gough Wife 39 Envolope Addresser Crossed out Born London NK
Annie Gough Daur. 14 Envolope Addresser Born West Bromwich
Florence B Gough Daur. 13 Envolope Addresser Born West Bromwich
Alfred Gough Son 10 Born West Bromwich
Harriet Gough Daur. 7 Born West Bromwich
Thomas Gough Son 6 Born West Bromwich
John W Gough Son 3 Born West Bromwich
Sophia Gough Son 1 Born West Bromwich
Elizabeth Burbridge Mother in Law Wid. 64 Born Netherton

[Northern Lass]

Who does annie actually link to
father is Alfred gough moulder


Marriage 28 Sept 1912 Old Church Smethwick
James Barton Sutton- 39 yrs- bach- moulder- 143 The Uplands Smethwick- Elias Barlow Sutton- moulder
Annie Elizabeth Gough- 30 yrs- spinster- 17 Clifton Rd Smethwick- Alfred Gough- moulder
Banns - both signed
Wit- Alfred Gough/ Eleanor Hughes Gough

do the wits help

[Annie]

Northan Lass they are two different family , it makes it more confusing with both Alfreds having a father called Thomas Gough .

Yes Kdw that is my family that connects to me , the other was just a project from the Bugle , ( why did I pick that one and confuse every one I need telling off for that)

Annie

[Northern Lass]

Don't worry Annie we can sort this one

I have disconnected that Annie b abt 1882 that married James sutton
from Alfred b abt 1874

so can we find our Annie Gough with father Alfred a moulder on the 1901

wits are
Alfred gough
eleanor gough

[Northern Lass]

There is this Alfred with daughter Annie

1901 Birmingham
Alfred Gough Head 43 Iron Moulder Born Cookley Kidderminster
Lucy Gough Wife 44 Born Cookley Kidderminster
Albert Gough Son 22 Iron Moulder Born Cookley Kidderminster
Annie Gough Daur. 18 Press worker ? Born Cookley Kidderminster
Nellie Gough Daur. 16 Jeweller Gold Born Birmingham
Alfred Gough Son 6 Born Birmingham
Hary Gough Son 3 Born Birmingham
Rose Lock Boarder 22 Press Worker? Born Birmingham

Is this a possible?

[Pudsey to Howard]

Hi

May I suggest Alfred Gough born circa 1858 Cookley, Worcestershire - married Lucy Hughes 1878 [registered at Kidderminster]. Living in Kiddermister 1881.Birmingham in 1891 & 1901. And in Smethwick 1911. Has a daughter Annie & one called Nelly [possibly the Eleanor Hughes Gough who was a witness at Annie's wedding]