Thomas harvey--more help for Val pls

[westbromval]

he was born1886 he mom was sarah walker dad henry harvey when is dad remarried to an jane evans he went to live with he was still a live in 1901 livening in langley edward st can any one help find out what happen to him thanks valerie

[Northern Lass]

1870
HARVEY Henry WALKER Sarah Smethwick, St Paul Sandwell Register Office 9/1/123

[Northern Lass]

he was born1886 he mom was sarah walker dad henry harvey when is dad remarried to an jane evans he went to live with he was still a live in 1901 livening in langley edward st can any one help find out what happen to him thanks valerie

can anyone post this census and see if he is on the 1911 pls

[MarkCDodd]

Most likely him in 1911 but they didn't list his place of birth. He worked in a forge in 1901 so the job has changed a bit....

911 census transcription details for: 191 Holyhead Road Wednesbury
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN17334 RG78PN1063 RD371 SD5 ED6 SN148

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: Wednesbury
Parish: Wednesbury Enum. District: 6
Address: 191 Holyhead Road Wednesbury
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HANSON, John Head Married M 58 1853 Socket Maker Holbeck Leeds
HANSON, Eliza Wife Married
33 years F 56 1855 Staffs Wednesbury
HANSON, Arthur Son Single M 33 1878 Turner Staffs Wednesbury
HANSON, Clara B Daughter Single F 27 1884 Dress Maker Staffs Wednesbury
HANSON, Walter E Son Single M 24 1887 Clerk Staffs Wednesbury
HARVEY, Thomas Boarder Single M 25 1886 Warehouse Man

[Jimmy]

So this is them in,
1901.
George Guest 37.
Jane Guest 33.
George Guest 14.
Wm Guest 11.
Louisa Guest 9.
Mary A Guest 8.
Sarah J Guest 6.
Hellen Guest 4.
Tobias Guest 2.
Charles Guest 1.
Amy Guest 2 months.
Henry Harvey 55. Boarder. Puddler. born Oldbury
Thomas Harvey 15. Boarder. Forge labourer. Oldbury.

[MarkCDodd]

1901 census transcription details for: 12, Edward Street, Oldbury (Worcs)
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2716 Folio: 19 Page: 29

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Oldbury (Worcs) Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: St Michaels Langley City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 12, Edward Street, Oldbury (Worcs)
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
GUEST, George House Keeper Married M 37 1864 Labourer At Alkali Works
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Jane Wife Married F 33 1868
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, George Son M 14 1887 Coal Pit Warfe Labourer
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Wm Son M 11 1890
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Louisa Daughter F 9 1892
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Mary A Daughter F 8 1893
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Sarah J Daughter F 6 1895
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Hellen Daughter F 4 1897
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Tobias Son M 2 1899
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Charles Son M 1 1900
Oldbury
Worcestershire
GUEST, Amy Son F 0 (2W) 1901
Oldbury
Worcestershire
HARVEY, Henry Boarder Widower M 55 1846 Pudler Of Iron
Oldbury
Worcestershire
HARVEY, Thomas Son M 15 1886 Forge Labourer
Oldbury
Worcestershire

[MarkCDodd]

Just checked the war records. He isn't in those. (There are four of similar age but on reading, none came from Oldbury.).

[MarkCDodd]

I assume the birth is the one in the first quarter West Brom 1886 6b 899.. There are no matching deaths in West Brom/Oldbury before 1915.

The most likely death is Sandwell, West Midlands in 1974. Volume 33 Page 1006.

That would give his birth date as 22 Jan 1886.

[Northern Lass]

anyone able to check the 1911
there is this one
INSTITUTION HARVEY THOMAS M 1884 27 Dudley Staffordshire

[MarkCDodd]

1911 census transcription details for: Dudley Union Workhouse And Infirmary Dudley Union Workhouse And Schools Dudley Union Workhouse And C, DUDLEY WORKHOUSE
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN17422 RG78PN1066 RD372 SD3 ED30 SN1

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Sedgley
Parish: Sedgley Enum. District: 30
Address: Burton Road Upper Gornal Near Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HARVEY, Thomas Inmate Single M 27 1884 Galvanizer Blackheath Staffordshire

[westbromval]

hes dad died in 1902 he had bothers and sisters he could have live with

[MarkCDodd]

There were only a couple Thomas Harvey of the right age and born Worcestershire or Staffordshire in the 1911 Census.

None that claimed a birth place of Oldbury.

So I think that one boarding with the Hanson family is the most likely.

[Northern Lass]

1911 census transcription details for: Dudley Union Workhouse And Infirmary Dudley Union Workhouse And Schools Dudley Union Workhouse And C, DUDLEY WORKHOUSE
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN17422 RG78PN1066 RD372 SD3 ED30 SN1

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Sedgley
Parish: Sedgley Enum. District: 30
Address: Burton Road Upper Gornal Near Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HARVEY, Thomas Inmate Single M 27 1884 Galvanizer Blackheath Staffordshire

Ok Val if this is him and it could be
(Oldbury / Blackheath area for place of birth)
occup is similar
you can check the Dudley Union entry and discharge records
see when he left
then check poss marriages and deaths

also the entries sometimes have quite a bit of detail

[Northern Lass]

If it is the one at Wednesbury with the Hansons
the this one might be worth looking at
see if father is a Henry deceased and occup

1916
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HARVEY * Thomas HANSEN Clara B Wednesbury, St John Sandwell Register Office 34/5/243
HARVEY * Thomas HANSON Clara B Wednesbury, St John Sandwell Register Office 34/5/243

[peterd]

dont know if this helps but thomas in 1891

1891 Park st Oldbury

Henry Harvey 44 puddler in ironworks Oldbury
Jane Harvey 50 Cheadle staffs
Emily Harvey 16 Oldbury
Henry Harvey 11 Oldbury
Samuel Harvey 8 Oldbury
Thomas Harvey 5 Oldbury