*Arc tbc* --VICKERSTAFF in wolverhamptom

[sandie]

I am looking for the marriage of George VICKERSTAFF b. abt 1828 to Dorothy Hannah SMITH b. abt 1833 propbably in Wolverhampton. Their 1st child william was born abt 1860 prob in wolverhampton. George V. parent were George v. and Mary BURNS. I have not located either of them. He had a brother william b. 1825. Some family trees have a William George but I have two death certs showing they were brothers. They may have been born in Burslem. I have a Ann V. chr/ 1819 John 1822 and William 1825 to George and Mary in Burslem found in Ancestry.How do I advance from here?
Regards Sandie

[peterd]

hi sandie welcome to the forum

[Northern Lass]

Hi Sandie going to move this to the Black Country Genealogy section

[Northern Lass]

Marriages Jun 1854
Smith Hannah Wolverhampton 6b 625
Vickers George Wolverhampton 6b 625
Wiley Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 625
Wright George Wolverhampton 6b 625

[Northern Lass]

29 May 1854
George Wright full b Grocer Dudley Street John Wright Farmer
&
Mary Ann Wiley full s Stafford Street Lewis Wiley Steel toy maker Lic Lewis Wiley,
Betsey & Frank Jackson G
George Fraser
St.Mary

So that other couple are a Hannah Smith and George Vickers

[Northern Lass]

Wonder if this is it and been mistrans in register

cos cant see this marriage on free bmd
same Church as the other one same year and same day


29 May 1854
George Nicken 21 b x Boatman Montrose Street George Nicken Wagoner
&
Hannah Smith 21 s x Montrose Street John Smith (deceased) Stone mason
B =Banns
Wit =John Linett & Esther Smith
George Fraser
St.Mary

I think that is the one on free Bmd

[sandie]

George and Hannah immigrated to NZ 1879 When George is said to be 49 and Hannah 45 They had children with them aged 19,15,13,10,7,6. I have failed to find the family in the census before they immigrated. Perhaps I should be looking at Vickers? Also if they were married in 1854 surely the children would have arrived before 1860?

[MarkCDodd]

A George Vickerstaff of the right age emmigrated to New South Wales in 1848.

He arrived aboard the Castle Eden on the 9th October 1848 and says he is a Primative Methodist. Farm Servant, can read and write, came from Rugby in Staffordshire and is 23 years of age.

He gives his parents as Michael and Elizabeth from Oldbury.

[Maths girl]

George and Hannah immigrated to NZ 1879 When George is said to be 49 and Hannah 45 They had children with them aged 19,15,13,10,7,6. I have failed to find the family in the census before they immigrated. Perhaps I should be looking at Vickers? Also if they were married in 1854 surely the children would have arrived before 1860?

Any children born 1854-1860 could have died or been left behind as they would have been adults and possibly married

[Maths girl]

A George Vickerstaff of the right age emmigrated to New South Wales in 1848.

He arrived aboard the Castle Eden on the 9th October 1848 and says he is a Primative Methodist. Farm Servant, can read and write, came from Rugby in Staffordshire and is 23 years of age.

He gives his parents as Michael and Elizabeth from Oldbury.

George and Hannah immigrated to NZ 1879 When George is said to be 49 and Hannah 45 They had children with them aged 19,15,13,10,7,6. I have failed to find the family in the census before they immigrated. Perhaps I should be looking at Vickers? Also if they were married in 1854 surely the children would have arrived before 1860?

Are these two Georges the same person? Went to Australia as a young man - went home married - and took his family back later?

[MarkCDodd]

Just found his Baptism and itis Rugeley Staffordshire. It does say Rugeley on one of the two embarkation manifests.

Name: George Vickerstaff
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1825
Christening Date: 12 Jun 1825
Christening Place: Rugeley, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Michael Vickerstaff
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

[MarkCDodd]

There is a whole dynasty of them in Burslem.

Ann 1819, John 1822 and William 1825 have a George Vickerstaff born 1778 in Burslem as their father.

[sandie]

Thanks for all the information. do you know anyone that may have been looking into the families at Burslem and how do I find out about it?
Sandie

[Northern Lass]

Can anyone answer this for Sandie?

Presume other message boards like ancestry and genes would show you who is researching a name
or Tribal pages trees etc

I think Vickers might be his name on that marriage...dunno

Unless we can help you with anything else on this will move it to the archived section
it can always be brought back for further discussion with more evidence etc

[peterd]

been doing some digging

http://www.dwyne.net/people.htm

or

http://www.curiousfox.com/history/staffordshire_13.html

or (halfway down page)

http://www.marisancestry.co.uk/Trees/d_b.htm