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*Arc tbc* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:10 am
by Northern Lass
Her father is Thomas can we find her mother

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =926764701

Re: Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:47 am
by kdw
Possible
1871 Church Street Kingswinford
Thomas Roberts Head 40 Miner Born
Jane Roberts Wife 40
Martha Roberts Daur.16
John Roberts Son 15
Ellen Roberts 1Daur. 2
George Roberts Son 10
Margaret I Roberts Daur. 8
Bertha Roberts Daur. 3
Benjamin Roberts Son 5 months
Cant make out places of birth

Re: Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:32 am
by MarkCDodd
Jane is her mother according to her Baptism on the 7th May 1868 at Halesowen.

On the 1871 Census, Jane is born is Shropshire.

She is dead by 1881 so lets see if I can find her earlier....

Holmesford Road, Cannock, Staffordshire

Smith B 37 Head Coal Miner Gornal Wood, Staffordshire
Smith Ann 38 Wife ? Gornal Wood, Staffordshire
Smith B 15 Son ? Gornal, Staffordshire
Smith Samuel 13 Son ? Gornal, Staffordshire
Smith Charles H 9 Son Scholar Gornal, Staffordshire
Smith Emily 6 Daughter ? Gornal, Staffordshire
Smith Thomas 4 Son ? Cannock, Staffordshire
Roberts Thomas 51 Lodger Labourer Cannock, Staffordshire
Roberts Bertha 14 Daughter Scholar Oldbury, Staffordshire
Roberts Benjamin 11 Son Scholar Oldbury, Staffordshire

Re: Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:48 am
by MarkCDodd
1861

Birchfield Lane, Oldbury

Roberts Thomas 36 Head Pit Labourer Oldbury, Worcestershire
Roberts Jane 29 Wife Pensnett, Worcestershire
Roberts Martha 6 Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Roberts John 5 Son Oldbury, Worcestershire
Roberts Ellen 3 Daughter Oldbury, Worcestershire
Roberts George 1 Son Oldbury, Worcestershire

Re: Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:59 am
by MarkCDodd
Likely marriage...

24th July 1853. St. Johns. Wolverhampton.

Thomas Roberts, 21, bachelor, brickmaker
Jane Hyde, 22, spinster.

Both living in Green Lane.

His fathr not mentioned and deceased.
Her father a William Hyde, Labourer.

Banns.

Hugh and Mary Ann Hughes as witnesses.

Re: Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:02 am
by Maths girl
Rest if the family in

1881 Church Street Pensnett
John Roberts 23 Head Coal Miner
George Roberts 20 Brother Coal Miner
Margaret Roberts 19 Sister

Re: Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:07 pm
by Northern Lass
thanks everyone

going to flag for help filling in this lot where relevant

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:28 pm
by grangers14
by kdw » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:47 am

Possible
1871 Church Street Kingswinford
Thomas Roberts Head 40 Miner Born
Jane Roberts Wife 40
Martha Roberts Daur.16
John Roberts Son 15
Ellen Roberts 1Daur. 2
George Roberts Son 10
Margaret I Roberts Daur. 8
Bertha Roberts Daur. 3
Benjamin Roberts Son 5 months
Cant make out places of birth

Could it be, Burntree for Thomas, Shropshire for Jane and the others Round Green and Benjamin Kingswinford?

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:59 pm
by grangers14
Ive added census can do the other things tomorrow. Run out of time have visitors soon.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =752605189
Jo :)

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:05 pm
by Northern Lass
thanks Jo
:grin:

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:19 pm
by grangers14
I have added the children but havent added the possible marriage Mark put up.
The reason being Thomas is as a Brickmaker on what he found and all census he is working in the mines?
Can we see if we can find more info first?
Jo :)

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:51 pm
by grangers14
Can you check births? Sorry cant think right at the mo :roll:
Looking at the 1871 census the I may be a J for Margaret this birth in 1863
ROBERTS Margaret Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/33/324

May be help in Mothers surname?
Jo :)

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:15 pm
by Jimmy
1871 census, it looks like Margaret J to me.

West Midlands Marriage 1849.
ROBERTS Thomas, CHADWICK Jane, Sedgley, All Saints, Dudley Register Office. 216/006/76.

West Midlands Marriage 1853.
ROBERTS Thomas, SHUKER Jane, Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/001/342.

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:33 pm
by Jimmy
There is this for a Margaret J Roberts.

West Midlands Marriage 1883.
ROBERTS Margaret J, COTTERILL Arthur. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/038/161.

1881. Church Street, Kingswinford.
John Roberts 23.
George Roberts 20.
Margaret Roberts 19. Sister. born Oldbury.

1891.
Arthur Cotterill 29. Kingswinford.
Margaret Cotterill 29. born, Oldbury, Staffs.
Alice Cotterill 7.
John Cotterill 5.
Emmie J Cotterill 4.
Alfred Cotterill 2.
Arthur Cotterill 1.

Re: *Help pls adding info to BCC* --Bertha Roberts

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:38 pm
by Jimmy
Margret Jane Roberts.
Christening, 24 JAN 1863. Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
Thomas Roberts.
Jane.

Batch No. I010836.