*Arc tbc* ---Samuel Smith abt 1843

[kdw]

Samuel here married to Unknown Unknown
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =579521537
Could this be him in 1871
Halesowen Road Mouse Sweet Netherton Dudley
Samuel Smith Head 28 Gas Tube Maker Born Mouse Sweet
Meriah Smith Wife 23 Nailer Born Mackpie Row (Image looks like 28)
Elizabeth Smith Daur.10 Scholar Born Mackpie Row
Joseph Smith Son 81 Scholar Born Mouse Sweet. Should this be father
Samuel Smith Son 5 Scholar Born Mouse Sweet
Olive Smith Daur. 2 Scholar Born Mouse Sweet

1861 Halesowen Road Mouse Sweet Brook Dudley
Samuel Smith Head 19 Gas Fitter Born Mouse Sweet Brook
Maria Smith Wife 19 Nailer Born Garrats Lane Rowley
Elizabeth Smith Daur. 8 Mo Born Netherton
Daniel Darby Boarder 23 Chain Maker Born Bowling Green

Could Daniel be connected in some way to Charles Darby, Samuels 2nd wifes 1st husband


Possible marriage
1860
SMITH Samuel THOMPSON Maria Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/002/435

Possible death for Maria
Deaths Jun 1875
Smith Maria 33 Dudley 6c 55

[kdw]

Possible
1861 Gorsty Hill
Joseph Smith Head 56 Minister of the Baptist Church Old Hill Born Dudley
Olive Smith Wife 56 Born Rowley Regis
Thomas Smith Son 13 Born Dudley
Joseph Darley Boarder 11 Born Rowley Regis (Darby on image)

1851 Halesowen Road
Joseph Smith Head 45 Cant read Occ Looks like something Minister Born Dudley
Odivet Smith Wife 44 Nailer Born Dudley
Elizabeth Smith Daur. 17 Nailer Born Dudley
Hannah Smith Daur. 15 Nailer Born Dudley
Ruth Smith Daur. 11 Nailer Born Dudley
Samuel Smith Son 9 Born Dudley
Thomas Smith Son 3 Born Dudley

1841 Mouse Sweet
Joseph Smith Head 35 Grocer
Olivet Smith 30
Mary Smith 14
Hanh Smith 9
Elizth Smith 7
Sarah Smith 3
Ruth Smith 1
All Born in County

JOSEPH SMITH
Spouse: OLIVE PRIEST Family
Marriage: 19 APR 1824 Dudley, Worcester, England

MARY SMITH
Birth: 08 JAN 1827 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester, England
Father: JOSEPH F. SMITH Family
Mother: OLIVET

Could this be Olive/Olivet/Oliva
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =261982828

Interesting article here
http://www.ebenezeroldhill.org.uk/centenary.php

[Maths girl]

Are these related to Charles Darby? No sign of Daniel b 1838 (another brother of Charles and Joseph?) or Joseph b 1850 yet!

1871 18 OAk St Dudley
Charles Darby 60 Labourer
Nancy Darby 60 wife
Charles Darby 38 son Nailor
Catherine Darby wife 29 b. Netherton
Nancy Darby 7 Daugh
Elizabeth Darby 5 Daugh
Joseph Darby 2 Son
Hannah Darby 16 Grandaughter (presumably of Charles and Nancy)

Next door
17 Oak St Dudley
Joseph Darby 35 nail maker
Kezariah Darby 36 b. Old Hill
Sarah Darby 12 nail maker
Nancy Darby 10 scholar
William Darby 6
Elizabeth Darby 4
Phoebe Darby 1

All others born Darby End

1861 Darby End
Charles Darby 50 Nailer
Nancy Darby 50 Nailer
Charles Darby 28 Nailer
Hannah Darby 5 Grandaughter

1851 Darby End
Charles Darby 40 Nailer
Ann Darby 40
Charles Darby 16 Nailer
Joseph Darby 15 Nailer
William Darby 11 Nailer

All born Dudley

1841 Darby Hand
Charles Darby 30 Nailer
Nancy Darby 30
Charles Darby 7
Joseph Darby 5
William Darby 1

[Maths girl]

1838 Daniel ??
1841Bowling Green, Dudley
Daniel Darby 25 nailor
Elizth Darby 25 nailor
Danl Darby 3
Mary Darby 11 Mo

Same page as

1841 Mouse Sweet
Joseph Smith Head 35 Grocer
Olivet Smith 30
Mary Smith 14
Hanh Smith 9
Elizth Smith 7
Sarah Smith 3
Ruth Smith 1
All Born in County

[Maths girl]

1851Halesowen Road
Daniel Darby 36 Nailor
Elizabeth Darby 36
Daniel Darby 13
Mary Darby 10
Mary Smith 75 Wid (no relationship given) ?Was Elizabeth a "Smith" - is that the connection?
Joseph Darby 2
All born Dudley

Next Door
1851
James Smith 26 Miner B Rowley
Mary Smith 24 Nailor
Sarah Ann Smith 4
William Smith 3
Olivet Smith 1



Rest born Dudley

[kdw]

We have a Daniel Darby 1838 here on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =521907570

Cant find a connection yet

[Northern Lass]

Are these related to Charles Darby? No sign of Daniel b 1838 (another brother of Charles and Joseph?) or Joseph b 1850 yet!

1871 18 OAk St Dudley
Charles Darby 60 Labourer
Nancy Darby 60 wife
Charles Darby 38 son Nailor
Catherine Darby wife 29 b. Netherton
Nancy Darby 7 Daugh
Elizabeth Darby 5 Daugh
Joseph Darby 2 Son
Hannah Darby 16 Grandaughter (presumably of Charles and Nancy)

Next door
17 Oak St Dudley
Joseph Darby 35 nail maker
Kezariah Darby 36 b. Old Hill
Sarah Darby 12 nail maker
Nancy Darby 10 scholar
William Darby 6
Elizabeth Darby 4
Phoebe Darby 1

All others born Darby End

1861 Darby End
Charles Darby 50 Nailer
Nancy Darby 50 Nailer
Charles Darby 28 Nailer
Hannah Darby 5 Grandaughter

1851 Darby End
Charles Darby 40 Nailer
Ann Darby 40
Charles Darby 16 Nailer
Joseph Darby 15 Nailer
William Darby 11 Nailer

All born Dudley

1841 Darby Hand
Charles Darby 30 Nailer
Nancy Darby 30
Charles Darby 7
Joseph Darby 5
William Darby 1

So Charles Darby and Joseph Darby are brothers
father is Charles mother Nancy

Samuel is son of Joseph Smith and Olive Priest

who may be on bcc
need that marriage looked up for wits

and Elizabeth Smith may be the sister of Joseph Smith
mother of Joseph may be a Mary?

DANIEL DARBY Spouse: ELIZABETH SMITH Marriage: 31 MAR 1834 Parish Church, Old Swinford, Worcester, Form submitted

or is that wrong?

[Northern Lass]

This is the rite Joseph looks very good Kdw
all this you flagged below

Possible marriage
1860
SMITH Samuel THOMPSON Maria Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/002/435

Possible death for Maria
Deaths Jun 1875
Smith Maria 33 Dudley 6c 55

and could be filled in
preacher/minister

1841 Mouse Sweet
Joseph Smith Head 35 Grocer
Olivet Smith 30
Mary Smith 14
Hanh Smith 9
Elizth Smith 7
Sarah Smith 3
Ruth Smith 1
All Born in County


1851 Halesowen Road
Joseph Smith Head 45 Cant read Occ Looks like something Minister Born Dudley
Odivet Smith Wife 44 Nailer Born Dudley
Elizabeth Smith Daur. 17 Nailer Born Dudley
Hannah Smith Daur. 15 Nailer Born Dudley
Ruth Smith Daur. 11 Nailer Born Dudley
Samuel Smith Son 9 Born Dudley
Thomas Smith Son 3 Born Dudley

1861 Gorsty Hill
Joseph Smith Head 56 Minister of the Baptist Church Old Hill Born Dudley
Olive Smith Wife 56 Born Rowley Regis
Thomas Smith Son 13 Born Dudley
Joseph Darley Boarder 11 Born Rowley Regis (Darby on image)


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =879225109

[kdw]

This can be archived until lookups done then we can join up if it checks out
Thanks
Kaye

[Northern Lass]

That is deffo his father he puts preacher on marr doc
don't you agree?
I think some of this can go on....
I will try and add some of this later

[kdw]

Thanks NL

[kdw]

1871 for Samuel with son Joseph age 81 should be Joseph age 8
Joseph his father is here
Plants Green
Joseph Smith Head 65 Baptist Minister Born Rowley Regis
Rebecca Smith Wife 55 Born Dudley

2 Possible deaths for Olive

Deaths Dec 1861
Smith Olive Dudley 6c 64

Deaths Dec 1865
Smith Olive Dudley 6c 5

A Joseph Smith and his wife Olivet were members of Cradley Chapel at that time and we know from the tombstone in Spring Meadow that Joseph Smith's first wife was named Olive or Olivet.

2 possibles for Josephs 2nd marriage

1861
SMITH Joseph LEWIS Rebecca Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/19

1869
SMITH Joseph TRANTER Rebecca Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/009/106

Death for Joseph
Deaths Mar 1873
SMITH Joseph 68 Dudley 6c 8
The beloved pastor Joseph Smith, was called to his eternal rest in 1873

[kdw]

All added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =162796145
Think this can now be archived
Thanks for all the help with this one
Kaye

[Northern Lass]

All added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =162796145
Think this can now be archived
Thanks for all the help with this one
Kaye

thanks for adding all that Kaye
you are a star

[Northern Lass]

Ok not a clue why we wanted this look up but Kdw will explain
cos it is for her


So the Christopher Sanders not Saunders cos he signed
married a Mary Harvey


marriage info by Jan<br>
25 May 1840 St Thomas Dudley<br>
Christopher Sanders of full age- bach- Bricklayer- Netherton Parish of Dudley- James Sanders<br>
Mary Harvey- of full age- spinster- Netherton- Edward Harvey- Bricklayer<br>
banns<br>
Christopher signed as Sanders!<br> X Mary<br>
Wit- Edward Harvey/ X Sarah Sanders

now is Sarah a sister to Christopher
father is James

if we can fill any more of this in
or if anyone wants to open a new topic up for mary Harvey and father Edward
pls do