*Arc tbc* --Joseph smith b 1855

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have rec'd the birth cert for Joseph smith
he is the son of Matilda Smith formerly Rose here...

1861 Census Rowley Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Rose Head 46 Nailer
Ann Rose wife 45 Nailer
William Rose son 20 Nailer
Mary Ann Rose dau 17
Joseph Rose son 14 Nailer
Ellen Rose dau
Gethan Rose dau 9
Absolom Rose son 5
William Daniels lodger 23 Soda Grater
Matilda Daniels wife 25 Nailer
Joseph Smith son in law 5
William Daniels son 10mths.
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =777233140

This lot I have done a load of look ups for and will bring back the Wm Daniels thread.

but!

I can't find a marriage for Matilda Westwood to Joseph Smith

he is the father on this birth for Joseph

25th dec 1855 Lilly Pot Row Rowley Regis- Joseph- boy- Joseph Smith Deceased- Matilda Smith Formerly Rose Coal Miner- the mark of Matilda Smith mother Lilly Pot Row RR

now the thing is I have done 2 look ups too

How can Matilda Marry Joseph Westwood 13 Oct 1854 St Thomas Dudley
and I have checked this father for Matilda Rose is William Rose

then Matilda is referred to as Matilda Smith formerly Rose
she should be formerly Westwood/ formerly Rose

somat aint rite
I dont think she married Joseph Smith
I think she married Westwood
he died
she had a kid by Joseph Smith
he died
and she married Wm Daniels in 1856

[MarkCDodd]

Don't you just love Black Widows! They always tend to do these things between the census, just to confuse you....

[Northern Lass]

rite guys any ideas on this one?

anyone find a marriage for Smith and Westwood?

anywhere?

I will add Joseph to the BCC tree

and if we aint running on this thread will archive

[Jimmy]

I can't see one, it could be they never married, or the vicar put down the wrong surname. after to much wine.

[Jimmy]

Have these marriages been looked up yet. Is it possible that Joseph Westwood should be Joseph Smith.

MATILDA ROSE.
JOSEPH WESTWOOD.
Marriage, 15 OCT 1854. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.



MATILDA SMITH OR ROSE.
WILLIAM DANIEL.
Marriage, 04 MAY 1856. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

[Northern Lass]

Have these marriages been looked up yet. Is it possible that Joseph Westwood should be Joseph Smith.

MATILDA ROSE.
JOSEPH WESTWOOD.
Marriage, 15 OCT 1854. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.



MATILDA SMITH OR ROSE.
WILLIAM DANIEL.
Marriage, 04 MAY 1856. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

Yes both of them might as well post them here


13 Oct 1854 St Thomas Dudley<br>
Joseph Westwood- minor- bach- miner- Dudley-William Westwood- dead- nailer<br>
Matilda Rose- minor- spinster- Dudley- William Rose- nailer<br>
banns<br>
X both<br>
Wit- X Fanny Westwood/ X Thomas Cox

and

4 May 1856 St Thomas Dudley<br>
William Daniel- full- bach- engineer- Dudley- William Daniel- dead- carter<br>
Matilda Smith- minor- widow- Dudley- William Rose- nailer<br>
banns<br>
Wit- X Ann Daniel/ X Joseph Daniel

[Northern Lass]

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