ARC....Moses Spittle Query on 1841 census

[NethertonWench]

On bcc we have Spittle, Moses
b.
ABT May 1777
Dudley, Worcestershire
e.
Baptism
18 May 1777
St.Thomas, Dudley , Worcs.
m.
Whitehouse, Esther
30 Jun 1799
Clent, Worcs.

The notes reads:
Added by Mumbles
1841 Census Netherton Hill Dudley Worcs.
Moses Spittle 60 Nail Factor born Worcs.
Ann Elwell 50 F.S. Not born Worcs.
Sarah Gill 14 F.S. Born Worcs.


My query:
Would Moses have been 60yrs in 1841? (1837?)
Who is Ann Elwell?
What does F.S mean?
And we have a Sarah Gill 14yrs - Moses’ daughter Sarah married a Benjamin Gill !? Do you think it should read age 41?
I’m a little confused, can anyone help pls?

Children:
Sarah Spittle
b.
ABT 1800
Dudley, Worcestershire
m.
Benjamin Gill
Spittle, James Harrison
b.
ABT 1802
Dudley, Worcestershire
d.
ABT 1858 (aged 56)
m.
Jones, Mary
Tobias Spittle
b.
ABT Nov 1803
Netherton, Worcs.
m.
Mary Unknown

[Jimmy]

F.S. means a female servant.

[kdwoodie]

Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 933
Baptism date 26 Apr 1829
Person forename Sarah Ann
Person sex F
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname GILL
Person abode Netherton
Father occupation Miner

[kdwoodie]

Name Tobias Spittle
Sex Male
Residence Place Saint Martin In Birmingham
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Name Mary Darby
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Residence Place Saint Martin In Birmingham
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 24 Nov 1828
Event Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Page 308

SPITTLE, RICHARD TILLEY DARBY
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 281

[kdwoodie]

Death
SPITTLE, MOSES 73
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 227

[kdwoodie]

Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 1031
Burial date 24 Sep 1815
Burial person forename Esther
Burial person surname SPITTLE
Person age 37

[NethertonWench]

Thank you.

Do you think Moses Spittle was now living with Ann Elwell unmarried? as his wife Elizabeth had died in 1815

And Sarah Spittle should read 41? Not 14

[Jimmy]

Death
SPITTLE, MOSES 73
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 227

This fits with 1841 census,

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 18 May 1777.
Moses SPITTLE.
Father John SPITTLE.
Mother Elizabeth.

[Jimmy]

Sarah Spittle that married Benjamin Gill is with Benjamin in 1841,

1841 Census Halesowen Road & Sweet Turf Dudley Worcs.
Benjamin Gill 40 Miner
Sarah Gill 40
Elizabeth Gill 15
Thomas Gill 14
Phebe Gill 10
Joseph Gill 8
Moses Gill 7
Benjamin Gill 2
Mary Gill 14 days
All born Worcs.

[Jimmy]

Sarah Gill in 1841 census age 14 looks like Benjamin Gill's daughter,

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 26 Apr 1829.
Sarah Ann GILL.
Father Benjamin GILL.
Mother Sarah.
Person abode Netherton.
Father occupation Miner.

[kdwoodie]

I think Ann Elwell was just living there, probably a housekeeper as she is listed as F S.

Another possible marriage for Moses?

Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Kingswinford
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 757
Marriage date 30 Mar 1820
Groom forename Moses
Groom surname SPITTLE
Groom abode Kingswinford
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname SHORE
Bride abode Kingswinford
Witness1 William ROUND
Witness2 Thomas WALKER
Notes Witness 1 signs by mark

Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 225
Burial date 09 Oct 1835
Burial person forename Mary
Burial person surname SPITTLE
Person age 61
Burial person abode NethertonWorcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 225
Burial date 09 Oct 1835
Burial person forename Mary
Burial person surname SPITTLE
Person age 61
Burial person abode Netherton

[NethertonWench]

Sarah Gill in 1841 census age 14 looks like Benjamin Gill's daughter,

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 26 Apr 1829.
Sarah Ann GILL.
Father Benjamin GILL.
Mother Sarah.
Person abode Netherton.
Father occupation Miner.

Oh ok, thanks. She’s not on BCC as daughter so was a little confused.
Have you got access to 1831 census to see if she is listed as daughter there? Would be 4yrs
Thank you

[NethertonWench]

Found this on a Moses Spittle.
Moses and Elizabeth had 3 grandsons named Moses
Is it Tobias Spittles son 1831?
James Harrison’s son 1836?
Sarah Spittle Gill’s son 1834?

Hospital record says he is 54 date 1887 so born abt 1833.
Also says married.
Died 1892

Any thoughts?

Patient Info
PatientNo: 5817 Name: SPITTLE MOSES Age: 54 Gender: Male MaritalStatus: Married Occupation: LABOURER WorkUnion: DUD Abode: 15 SPITTLES FOLD NETHERTON DUDLEY Disorder: MANIA Outcome: DIED Admittion Date: 1889-07-10 Discharged Date: 1892-04-11

[kdwoodie]

There wasn't a census in 1831

[mumbles]

Census Ages for Adults on 1841 Census can be + or - 5 years so Moses 60 is alright
I added for Sparks who has Spittle Ancestors
Moses grandson George Spittle ( son of Tobias Spittle ) lives next door as does another Spittle, Zachariah
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