*ARC TBC*1851 St Liger, Ledger, Leger, Legar Staffordshire

[Robyn]

I hope I'm posting this request in the right area.

The name I'm searching for is Barry St Liger born in Scotland and lived in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. St. Ledger is the correct spelling but I know it has been misspelt a number of ways. In 1851 his son Hays St Liger is in the workhouse but where is Barry his father?

Barry St Ledger b. 1790-1794 Scotland and his wife Eunice/Unice Musgrove (b.1802-1806 in Staffordshire, and died 1847) I'm also searching for their marriage date.

Help is greatly appreciated.

[Robyn]

I need help please searching for Eunice Musgrave (Musgrove, Moregrove) born between 1802 -1806 in Wolverhampton & Seisdon, Staffordshire. I know nothing about her parents. Baptism of her children also spell the name as Unice Musgrove. She was married to Barry St Ledger also spelt as St Liger, St Leger.
Eunice St Leger died in 1847 Wolverhampton.
Thank you in advance.

[gardener]

The 1841 entry seems to indicate that Eunice was not born in Staffordshire - she could have been from anywhere really.

She and Barry seem to have moved around a lot, with the earliest baptism I see:

Dec 12 1834 Aberystwyth St Michael
Hayes son of Barry and Eunice St Leger Book binder

then a Jane bapt in Hereford in 1837, before they seem to settle in Wolverhampton.

There are also earlier baptisms in and around London father Barry a bookbinder, but mother is Sarah. Was that an earlier marriage or someone else?

[Jimmy]

From Familysearch, also there are siblings with same parent.

Eunice Musgrove.
Baptism Date 17 Feb 1811.
Baptism Place Seavington St Michael, Somerset
Religion Anglican.
Father's Name Nathaniel Musgrove.
Mother's Name Elizabeth.
Event Type Baptism.
Document Type Bishop's transcripts.
Source Publication Year Range 1679-1812.
Reference D/D/ RR 364

[Jimmy]

Nathaniel Musgrave.
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Fry.
Marriage Date 8 Jun 1793.
Marriage Place Seavington St Michael, Somerset.
Event Type Marriage.
Source Details item 24p 15.

[grangers14]

It's strange this?
Did you buy her death certificate to see who informed of her death? Might help a little if you haven't?

I was looking the other day but I am very slow in typing...
I have seen what Jimmy and Gardener have put, I found this...

20th May 1841. St Peter, Wolverhamton
Barry, M, Barry and Unice St Ledger, North Street, Book Binder

3rd September. 1843. St Peter, Wolverhampton.
Hayes son of Bury and Eunice St Leger, Bricklin Lane, Book Binder

26th April 1846. St Paul, Wolverhampton.
Elizabeth, F, Berry and Unice St Ledger, Bricklin Street, Book Binder

1841. North Street, Wolverhampton.
James Myatt, 30,
Mary Myatt, 30,
Frances Myatt, 7,
Daniel Myatt, 4,
Berry St Ledger, 47, Bookbinder, Scotland
Eunice St Ledger, 35,
Eunace St Ledger, 8,
Barnett? St Ledger, 1 m, born in County
All others not born in County

[Robyn]

Hello Gardener,

Thank you for the searches and providing the information. The family certainly did seem get around. I have no idea if Barry was married before Eunice.

Would you provide me with the earlier baptism's please in and around London? With Barry and Sarah parents?

Hayes born/baptised in Aberystwyth in 1834 must have died. There was another son named Hayes born in 1843 in Staffordshire and he is my ancestor. He married Sarah Andrews in 1867.

Thank you so much for your help.

[Robyn]

Thank you Jimmy,

That's a great help to me providing the baptism of Eunice and her parents marriage. It's pushed me on in my searches. I see the name is spelt as Musgrave and Musgrove.

I'll take a look at Family Search.

Thank you.

[Robyn]

Hello Grangers 14,

I haven't purchased the death certificate of Eunice. I looked on Freebmd and worked out her d.o.b from the 1847 Wolverhampton entry.

The 20th May 1841 is the baptism of their son Barry (I think) shown as Barnett in the 1841 census.

The son Hayes born in 1843 is correct. They also had a son named Hayes born in 1834 in Aberystwyth and I think he died.

I was unaware of Elizabeth 1846? I knew of Elizabeth St Leger baptised in 1839 parents Barry and Unice.

I also have no idea who the Myatt family are in the 1841 Census.

Thank you so much for providing me with this info.

[grangers14]

10th November 1867. St Stephen, Willenhall
Arthur Hayes St Ledger, 24, B, Keysmith, Willenhall,
Sarah Andrews, 20, S, Willenhall, Joseph Andrews, Carpenter
Witnesses, Frances Stanley Fletcher, Anne Davis.
Grooms father and occupation not given.

If this is the correct marriage?
There is an interesting census
1871. 74,New Street, Wednesfield
Hayes St Ledger, Head, 28, Key maker, Wolverhampton
Sarah St Ledger, Wife, 23, Wednesbury
Arthur St Ledger, Son, 3,
Joseph St Ledger, Son, 1,
Others born Wednesfield

Next door is…
73, New Street, Wednesfield
William Morris, head, 33, Engineer ? at colliery, Tettenhall
Selina, wife, 32,
William, son, 10
Sarah, daur, 8
John, son, 5
Thomas, son, 2
Mary Ledger, boarder, NK, Wednesbury or a red herring?????????

No idea where Arthur came in?

[grangers14]

I think I have merged the topics together and moved to Black Country section so we can try and chip away?

[grangers14]

We can try and chip away?
So Barry St Ledger or variations of the name...
1841. North Street, Wolverhampton.
James Myatt, 30,
Mary Myatt, 30,
Frances Myatt, 7,
Daniel Myatt, 4,
Berry St Ledger, 47, Bookbinder, Scotland
Eunice St Ledger, 35,
Eunace St Ledger, 8,
Barnett? St Ledger, 1 m, born in County
All others not born in County

Where did he go? Did he pass away? Is that why Hayes is in the workhouse? After his mothers death? Where are the other children?

[kdwoodie]

There are service records for Barry St Leger on Ancestry

Name: Sergeant Barry St. Ledger
Discharge Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1844
Discharge Year: 1880
Regiment: E Battery 1st Brigade R.A.
Regimental Number: 8028

Is this Barry born 1841 Wolverhampton?

[Robyn]

Kdwoodie, Yes I believe this is the son of Barry and Eunice.

[kdwoodie]

Eunice ?

1861 Parsonage Dudley
William Brown 44 Head Mar Labourer Born Leek
Eunice Brown 30 Wife Mar Born Bristol Somerset
Mary Ann Brown 5 Daughter Scholar Born Wolverhampton
Ann Maria Brown 2 Daughter Born Dudley

1871 1 Kingston Square Harborne
William Brown 55 Head Mar Lab out of Employ Born Leek
Eunice Brown 39 Wife Mar Born Bristol Somerset
Mary A Brown 15 Daughter Nail Cutter in Factory Born Wolverhampton
Ann M Brown 12 Daughter Scholar Born Dudley
Martha Brown 9 Daughter Scholar Born Dudley
James Brown 4 Son Born Dudley Deaf & Dumb
Barry Brown 1 Son Born Harborne

1881 Woods Buildings Cross Street Harborne
William Brown Head Mar 65
Eunice Brown Wife Mar
(not transcribed)
Mary Ann Brown Daur Unm 25 Employer at ? Works Born Wolverhampton
Barry Brown Son 11 Scholar Born Smethwick
Fredrick Brown Son 6 Scholar Born Smethwick

1891 1 Court 3 House Cross Street
Eunice Brown 65 Head Wid Laundress Born Bristol Somerset
James Brown 24 Son S General Labourer Born Harts Hill Deaf & Dumb from Childhood
Frederick Brown 16 Son S General Labourer Born Smethwick
Henry Stledger 5 Nephew Scholar Born Willenhall

No Marriage found

No birth found for Mary Ann

BROWN, ANN MARIA SAINTLEDGER
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 168

BROWN, MARTHA ST LEDGER
GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 108

BROWN, JAMES SAINT LEDGER
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 119

BROWN, BARRY STLEDGER
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 472

BROWN, FREDERICK ST LEDGER
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 463