UPDATE Look up for Kdw done! --Shadrach Cox

[kdw]

Have loked up the marriage for Shadrach Cox.
Married 8 May 1880 St Thomas Dudley
Shadrach Cox X 22 Bachelor Chain Maker Living Dudley Father Stephen Cox Horse Nail Maker
Lucy Jones X 20 Spinster Living Dudley Father William Jones Horse Driver
Wit: Henry Hodgetts X Martha Cox

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =252927920

Can we find who Lucys Mother was please?

[Maths girl]

Only Lucy Jones of right age I can see on 1871 census is

Woodsetton, Sedgley
William Jones 54 whitesmith
Susannah Jones 50
Sarah Jones 15
Lucy Jones 11
Emma Jones 8

Given his age in 1871 he could have changed to a less demanding ? job of Horse driver in 1881.

I'll see if I can find him in 1881

[kdw]

Found this
1861 Overend Cradley
William Jones Head 26 Green Grocer Born Storventon, Worcestershire
Louisa Wife 22 Green Grocer Born Cradley
Samuel Son 3 Born Cradley
Mary A Daur.1 Born Cradley


1871 Overend Cradley
William Jones Head 34 Fruiterer Born Highley Salop
Louisa Wife 37 Friuteres Wife Born Cradley
Samuel Son 14 Labourer Born Cradley
Mary Ann Daur. 11 Scholar Born Cradley
Lucy Daur.9 Scholar Born Cradley
William Son 5 Scholar Born Cradley
Philip Son 1 Born Cradley

1881 Overend Cradley
William Jones Head W. 50 Carter Born Igley Worcestershire
Mary A Daur. 21 Born Cradley
William Son 16 Ironworker Millman Born Cradley
Philip Son 11 Scholar Born Cradley
Arthur 10 Scholar Born Cradley

1891 Overend Cradley (Cant Make sense of this)
William Jones Head 62 Gardener Born Bewdley Worcestershire
Martha Wife 48 Born Cradley
Samuel Son 32 Farm Labourer Drayman Born Lye
Mary Ann Daur.28 Born Lye
Lucy Daur.26 Born Lye (If this is the lucy married to Shadrach shes in 2 places at once) Born Lye
William Son 24 ? in Ironworks Born Lye
Philip Son 21 ? Born Lye
Arthur Son 20 Born Lye
John Henry Son 8 Scholar born Lye
Edith Anne Daur. 6 Born Lye
Fobria Daur. 4 Born Lye
Frank Son 1 Born Lye

1901 Banners Lane Overend Cradley
William Jones Head 70 Market Gardener Born Isley Salop
Martha Wife 56 Born Hagley Worcs
Mary A Daur.42 Born Cradley
William Son 36 Labourere Gardeners Born Cradley
Philip Son 31 Carter Born Cradley
Henry Son 18 Carter Born Cradley
Lottie Daur.16 Born Cradley
Florence Daur.14 Born Cradley
Frank Son 11 Born Cradley

Possible marriage for William and Louisa

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
JONES William COX Louisa Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/015/307

Possible Death for Louisa
Deaths Dec 1875
JONES Louisa 37 Dudley 6c 65

So who is the Martha he married ?

[Maths girl]

1881 Overend Cradley
William Jones Head W. 50 Carter Born Igley Worcestershire
Mary A Daur. 21 Born Cradley
William Son 16 Ironworker Millman Born Cradley
Philip Son 11 Scholar Born Cradley
Arthur 10 Scholar Born Cradley

I like the look of this one kdw as CArter fits nicely with Horse driver and as Lucy was married in 1880 she wouldn't appear with the rest of the family.

I would have said the rest all belong to the same family but a different one.

[Maths girl]

Just had another look and yes they do all seem to match up as the same family with William marrying twice

[peterd]

1881 Overend Cradley
William Jones Head W. 50 Carter Born Igley Worcestershire
Mary A Daur. 21 Born Cradley
William Son 16 Ironworker Millman Born Cradley
Philip Son 11 Scholar Born Cradley
Arthur 10 Scholar Born Cradley

next but one to above 1881 poss shadrachs uncle ?

1881 Overend Cradley, Worcester

Andrew COX 46 Cradley, Worcester, Ironworker Pudler
Sarah COX 46 Rowley, Stafford,
Harry COX 18 Cradley, Worcester, , Scholar
Benjamin COX 13 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar
Walter COX 4 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar


poss andrew

ANDREW COX
Christening: 12 NOV 1834 Cradley, Worcester,

Father: BENJAMIN COX
Mother: ELIZABETH

poss marriage

BENJAMIN COX
ELIZABETH HARPER
Marriage: 05 JUN 1825 Halesowen, Worcester,



stephen father benjamin too but mother poss maria bcc marriage look up

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =884657269

[peterd]

benjamin and maria


SARAH COX
Christening: 08 MAR 1823 Cradley, Worcester,

STEPHEN COX
Christening: 08 MAR 1823 Cradley, Worcester,

poss marriage

BENJAMIN COX
MARIA BROOK
Marriage: 30 JUL 1815 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

poss maria died before 1825 and benjamin remarried

any one find a census 1841,51 please

[Maths girl]

Possible?

1841 Two Gates Cradley
Benjn Cox 35 nailor
Eizabeth Cox 35
Willm Cox 13
Elizah Cox 12
Louisa Cox 9
Andrew Cox 6
Hannah Cox 4
Mariah Cox 1

Lots of other cox's on same page possible brothers/sisters

1851Two Gates ,Cradley
Benjn Cox 48,nailer
Elizah Cox 46 ,nailer
Willm Cox 23,forge pudler
Elijah Cox 21, forge pudler
Louisa Cox 18,nailer
Andrew Cox 15,nailer
Hannah Cox 13,nailer
Maria Cox 9,errand girl
Lucy Cox 7,scholler f h (??)
Eliza Cox 5,scholler f h (??)
Benjn Cox 2
all born Worcester,Cradley

HTH

[kdw]

Possible marriage
Thomas Cox
Nancy West
30 March 1794 Clent

Baptism for Benjamin Cox born abt 1794
1 March 1795 St John Halesowen
Benjamin so Thomas and Nancy Cox

Other possible Baptisms
23 March 1800 St Johns Halesowen
Prudence so Thomas and Nancy Cox

Hannah Cox 18 Sept 1803 Cradley
Thomas and Nancy Cox

1841 Parkside Cradley
Benj Cox 45 Nailer
Maria 50
Amstia 20
Stephen 18
Rebecca 17
Simion 14
Jesse 11

Next door
Hannah 35 Nailer
Maria 2
All born in county

1851 38 Pitchett Street St George Birmingham
Isaac Forrest Head 26 Sword an Bayonet Forger Master employing 1 Man Born Cradley
Rhoda Wife 26 Born Cradley
Rowland Son 2 Born Birmingham
Benjamin Cox 56 Nailer Born Cradley
Maria Wife 63 Born Cradley

1861 High Town Cradley
Benjamin Cox Head 65 Horse nail Maker Born Cradley
Maria Wife 72 Born Cradley
Ann Grandaughter 11 Scholar Born Cradley

Marriage for Benjamin Cox Elizabeth Harper
5 June 1825 St John Halesowen
Benjamin Cox otp bach
Elizabeth Harper otp spin by GS(Curate)
Benj Cox X
Elizabeth Harper X
Wit: Benjamin Haper X Ann Harper X
I don't think this is the same family as Shadrachs


Marriage for Rhoda Cox Isaac Forrest
22 June 1846 Aston Juxta Birmingham Warwick

[peterd]

Possible marriage
Thomas Cox
Nancy West
30 March 1794 Clent

Baptism for Benjamin Cox born abt 1794
1 March 1795 St John Halesowen
Benjamin so Thomas and Nancy Cox

Other possible Baptisms
23 March 1800 St Johns Halesowen
Prudence so Thomas and Nancy Cox

Hannah Cox 18 Sept 1803 Cradley
Thomas and Nancy Cox

1841 Parkside Cradley
Benj Cox 45 Nailer
Maria 50
Amstia 20
Stephen 18
Rebecca 17
Simion 14
Jesse 11

Next door
Hannah 35 Nailer
Maria 2
All born in county

1851 38 Pitchett Street St George Birmingham
Isaac Forrest Head 26 Sword an Bayonet Forger Master employing 1 Man Born Cradley
Rhoda Wife 26 Born Cradley
Rowland Son 2 Born Birmingham
Benjamin Cox 56 Nailer Born Cradley
Maria Wife 63 Born Cradley

1861 High Town Cradley
Benjamin Cox Head 65 Horse nail Maker Born Cradley
Maria Wife 72 Born Cradley
Ann Grandaughter 11 Scholar Born Cradley

Marriage for Benjamin Cox Elizabeth Harper
5 June 1825 St John Halesowen
Benjamin Cox otp bach
Elizabeth Harper otp spin by GS(Curate)
Benj Cox X
Elizabeth Harper X
Wit: Benjamin Haper X Ann Harper X
I don't think this is the same family as Shadrachs


Marriage for Rhoda Cox Isaac Forrest
22 June 1846 Aston Juxta Birmingham Warwick

so this is shadrach line and we have two benjamins born around the same time

[kdw]

Hi Peterd
Certainly looks like there are 2 Benjamins
Kdw

[Maths girl]

I think we have 2 Cox families both marrying into the same Jones family -

Cox family 1
Shadrach Cox son of Stephen Cox and Mary A Turner m 1894
Stephen Cox son of Benjamin and Maria (siblings Sarah(Amstia?) Rebecca Simion Jesse Rhoda)

Cox family 2
Lucy Jones daughter of William Jones and Louisa COX m 1856
Loiusa Cox daughter of Benjamin Cox and Elizabeth Harper ( siblings William,Elizah,Andrew,Hannah,Mariah)

Whether these two families were originally one Cox family with the Benjamins being cousins both named after a Benjamin grandfather has yet to be seen.

From their birth dates I would think Thomas Cox and Nancy West are most likely to be parents of Benjamin 1 and therefore GG?grandparents of Shadrach.

[kdw]

Marraige lookups posted
Is Louisa's father Benjamin?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
JONES William COX Louisa Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/015/307

Need to see if William is a widower
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1882
JONES * William NOTT Martha Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/007/312
JONES William ASHMORE Martha Stambermill, St Mark Dudley Register Office 004/001/134
JONES William HOWELLS Martha Tipton, St Mark Sandwell Register Office 38/3/447

[Northern Lass]

Ok they are added
wot u want to do with this archive pend look ups

[kdw]

Yes please i'm getting lost with it all