Arc..John thomas Payne

[Northern Lass]

just looking for more on him pls cant see them on bcc
PAYNE, JOHN THOMAS HOLLIES
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 6

think this parents
1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
PAYNE William HOLLIES Elizabeth 1874 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/031/368

[kdwoodie]

Name: John J Payne
[Thomas Payne]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1890
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 25
Residence Place: Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Motor Lorry Driver
Line Number: 39
Schedule Number: 103
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QJGS
Borough: Halesowen
Registration district: 373/1/45
Inferred Spouse:
Doris Ellen Payne
Household Members Age
John J Payne 49
Doris Ellen Payne
34

[Northern Lass]

I think William the father may connect here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =890745668

[kdwoodie]

i think without the marriage its hard to say which

[Northern Lass]

1909
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
PAYNE John T WHILE Lily 1909 Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/029/98

[Northern Lass]

Does this look right
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =141540978

got them on 1911 I think.

[Northern Lass]

not many John Thomas Payne born RR area
so wonder if the one on 1939 is his second marriage.
1928
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
PAYNE John T HUDSON Doris E 1928 Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/010/93

[kdwoodie]

1911 38 Hawes Lane, Rowley Regis, B'Ham, Staffs
William Payne Head 59 Married Clay works Labourer
Elizabeth Payne Wife 56 Married (Married 37 Years 5 Children 5 Living)
John Thomas Payne Son 21 Married Kiln Hand Cay Works
Lily Payne Daughter in Law 20 Married (Married 1 Year 1 Child Living)
Geoffrey Henry Payne Grandson 1
All born Rowley Regis

[kdwoodie]

Possible
Name: John Thomas Payne
Death Date: 16 Feb 1969
Cemetery: All Saints Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place: Wyre Forest District, Worcestershire, England
Has Bio?: N
Spouse:
Lily Payne
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/206 ... omas-payne

[kdwoodie]

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Parish Register
Register entry number 645
Birth date 08 Mar 1890
Baptism date 13 Apr 1890
Person forename John Thomas
Person sex ?
Father forename William
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname PAYNE
Person abode 22 Club Buildings
Father occupation Labourer

[kdwoodie]

Name: John T Poyne
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1890
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 7
Residence Place: Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Electrical Radio Sales ?? Collector
Line Number: 42
Schedule Number: 154
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: ORVI
Borough: Rowley Regis
Registration district: 372/1
Inferred Spouse:
Lily Poyne
Inferred Children:
Norman G Poyne
Household Members Age
John T Poyne 49
Lily Poyne 48
Norman G Poyne 26

[Northern Lass]

Name: John J Payne
[Thomas Payne]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1890
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 25
Residence Place: Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Motor Lorry Driver
Line Number: 39
Schedule Number: 103
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QJGS
Borough: Halesowen
Registration district: 373/1/45
Inferred Spouse:
Doris Ellen Payne
Household Members Age
John J Payne 49
Doris Ellen Payne
34

so if the other one in 1939 is there with wife Lily (While)

then who is this one have we a birth for him?

[Northern Lass]

Cos if born end june 1890 would be sept regis and the only one I see is this
PAYNE, JOHN THOMAS WESTON
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 149

and he dies ....

[kdwoodie]

Looking at marriages for John T Payne

PAYNE John T GROVE Jessie 1903 Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/008/138 Whos this one ?

PAYNE John T WHILE Lily 1909 Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/029/98

PAYNE John T HOLT Elsie M 1917 Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/7/38

[Northern Lass]

not sure where I am going with this

so will arch .