COMPLETED...Joseph Lee b abt 1854 ish a potter--

[Northern Lass]

Can we find him on earlier census pls with him being a potter might be easy?

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =991773679

[Northern Lass]

I think this could be him
1871 The Knowle Rowley regis
John Lee head mar 28 coal miner ---think this should say 38!
Elizabeth Lee wife 37
Joseph Lee son 14 coal miner
Elizabeth Lee dau 12 scholar
Clara Lee dau 6
Sophia Lee dau 4
John Thomas lee son 2
An infant Lee dau 2 days
all born Rowley Regis

[Northern Lass]

LEE, CLARA SHAW
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 146 ????


1855 HIPKISS Elizabeth LEE John 1855 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/014/342

Free reg.
16 Apr 1855 St Thomas Dudley
John LEE-full age- bachelor-Miner- abode Dudley-father Joseph LEE - occupation Miner
Elizabeth HIPKISS - age minor-spinster- abode Dudley-father Joseph HIPKISS- occupation Labourer (deceased)
Witness1 Parthena HIPKISS
Witness2 John HIPKISS
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 1 marked X. Witness 2 signed

1855 HIPKISS Elizabeth LEE John 1855 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/014/342

LEE, JOSEPH HIPKISS
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 104

LEE, ELIZABETH HIPKISS
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 19

LEE, SOPHIA HIPKISS
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 3

LEE, JOHN THOMAS HIPKISS
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 14

LEE, ELLEN HIPKISS
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 11

[kdwoodie]

Are these Johns parents https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=538108

[Northern Lass]

I think they are kdw
shall I connect with a note?

also do you get what that Clara Lee birth means
LEE, CLARA SHAW
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 146 ????

should say hipkiss like the others

[kdwoodie]

i think you should connect but i have no idea about Clara

[Northern Lass]

there is a mary shaw wife to Thomas Lee
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =661683260

wonder if clara is their dau

[kdwoodie]

why would she be listed as their daughter

[Northern Lass]

why would she be listed as their daughter

I dont know but that family is odd

I think Elizabeth b abt 1810 is a Gwinn marries a Johnson
then my head goes...

[Northern Lass]

Think this is 2nd marriage
Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Clent
Church name (Links to more information) St Leonard
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 39
Marriage date 25 Nov 1838
Groom forename Joseph
Groom surname LEA
Groom age full age
Groom condition widower
Groom occupation Miner
Groom abode Rowley Regis
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname JOHNSON
Bride age full age
Bride condition widow
Bride abode Rowley Regis
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname LEA
Groom father occupation Bricklayer
Bride father forename Amram
Bride father surname GWYNN
Bride father occupation Miner
Witness1 Richard GWYNN
Witness2 Jephthah CRADDOCK

this is 1st
free reg.
Halesowen St John
Marriage date 17 Feb 1824
Groom forename Charles Henry
Groom surname JOHNSON
Groom parish Otp
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname GWINN
Bride parish Otp
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 Thomas GARBETT
Witness2 Jane JOHNSON

if you think that works I can add

just not sure on kids need bapts pls

so I can disect them.

[kdwoodie]

Freereg
Halesowen
Church name (Links to more information) St John the Baptist
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 260
Marriage date 24 Oct 1825
Groom forename Joseph
Groom surname LEE
Groom parish Otp
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Caron Appock
Bride surname SHAW
Bride parish Unk
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 John CLARKE
Witness2 Rhoda CLARKE

Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 2319
Birth date 13 Nov 1826
Baptism date 24 Oct 1830
Person forename Thomas
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Karenhappuck
Father surname LEE
Person abode Netherton
Father occupation Miner

Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 2320
Birth date 03 Mar 1829
Baptism date 24 Oct 1830
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Karenhappuck
Father surname LEE
Person abode Netherton
Father occupation Miner


[color=#0000FF]Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 1282
Birth date 11 Sep 1856
Baptism date 09 Nov 1856
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Father forename John
Mother forename Elizabeth HIPKISS
Father surname LEE
Person abode Windmill End
Father occupation Miner[/color]

Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 1446
Birth date 05 Aug 1847
Baptism date 01 Feb 1857
Person forename William Daniel
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname LEE
Person abode Black Heath
Father occupation Miner

William lists these as parents on his death cert in USA
Name: William Daniel Lee
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 85
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1847
Birth Place: Netherton England
Death Date: 4 May 1933
Death Place: Pymatuning, Mercer, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: Joseph Lee
Mother: Elizabeth Guynn
Spouse: Elizabeth Jane Lee
Certificate Number: 48061


Worcestershire
Place Dudley
St Thomas
Register entry number1512
Burial date13 Jun 1837
Herenhappuch LEA
Person Age 34
Burial person abodeNetherton


Worcestershire
Dudley
St Thomas
Register entry number509
Burial date18 Apr 1836
Charles JOHNSON
Person age34
Burial person abodeNetherton

[kdwoodie]

LEE, MARTHA IN...
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in THE WOLVERHAMPTON UNION Volume 17 Page 220

LEE, ELIZA GWINN
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 240

[kdwoodie]

Name: Kerenhapputh Shaw
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1803
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Father:
Moses Shaw
Mother:
Sarah
FHL Film Number: 378764

Witness to Joseph and Kerenhapuths marriage

Halesowen
Church name (Links to more information) St John the Baptist
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 385
Marriage date 28 Dec 1818
Groom forename John
Groom surname CLARK
Groom parish Otp
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Rhoda
Bride surname SHAW
Bride parish Otp
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 John DAVIES
Witness2 Sarah SHAW

Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Baptism date 3 Mar 1799
Person forename Rhoda
Person sex F
Father forename Moses
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname SHAW

Clent
Church name (Links to more information) St Leonard
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Marriage date 20 Jul 1796
Groom forename Moses
Groom surname SHAW
Groom parish Rowley regis
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname WALKER
Bride parish Rowley regis
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 Joseph HARISON
Witness2 Mary HARISON

[Northern Lass]

Wow!

can you give me the idiots guide to what I should add as I am lost
(the wine doesn't help!)

[kdwoodie]

Here goes but i'm a tad merry

Joseph Lee 1811 married kerenwhatshername, they had Thomas and Joseph

No idea who the parents are for John and Elizabeth must be Keren?

Charles Johnson dies

Keren? Lee dies

Joseph Marries Elizabeth Johnson Gwynn

Joseph and Elizabeth have Martha and Eliza

LEE, MARTHA IN...
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in THE WOLVERHAMPTON UNION Volume 17 Page 220

LEE, ELIZA GWINN
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 240

1841 Census Halesowen Road Dudley Worcs.
Joseph Lee 30 Miner
Elizabeth Lee 30
Thomas Lee 15
Joseph Lee 13
John Lee 11
Elizabeth Lee 10
Martha Lee 2
Thomas Johnson 13
Ann Maria Johnson 10
Jane Johnson 8
All born Worcs.

The Johnson kids must be Elizabeth by first husband

Elizabeth Gwynn Married Charles Henry Johnson (Can we start a new thread for kids )

And a seperate thread for Moses Shaw

Hope it makes sense