ARC TBC Marriage and Parents

[geoff3d]

Help please with marriage and parents
Smith, Norman marr
Tildesley, Mavis birth 1935 ?marr Jun 1955 - mother poss Butler
Wednesbury died 2020 wombourn Poss marriage Wednesbury Staffs
Geoff

[Jimmy]

Births Dec 1935.
Tildesley Mavis E. mother Butler. Wednesbury. 6b. 1019.

Siblings,
Births Mar 1929.
Tildesley George F. Butler. Walsall. 6b. 1132.

Births Mar 1929.
Tildesley Leslie V. Butler. Walsall. 6b. 991.

Births Mar 1931.
Tildesley Iris M. Butler. Dudley. 6b. 1516.

Marriages Sep 1923.

TILDESLEY George H. Butler Walsall. 6b. 1420.
Butler Harriett E' Tildesley Walsall. 6b. 1420.

1939. 15 Midland, Darlaston.
George H Tildesley 38. Birth Date: 5 Nov 1901. Dresser at Iron Foundary.
Harriet E Tildesley 36. Birth Date: 18 Jun 1903.
plus 4 closed records.

[geoff3d]

Brilliant Jimmy many thanks
Geoff

[gardener]

The 1955 marriage was at a Registry Office so you would have to get the certificate if you think you need it

SMITH Norman TILDESLEY Mavis E 1955 Wednesbury Register Office Sandwell Register Office WED/22/222

[geoff3d]

Is it to much to hope that a 1911 or 1901 result could open up the earlier census records ?

[Jimmy]

TILDESLEY, GEORGE HENRY PRICE.
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 931.

1911. 30 High St, Wednesbury.
Frank Tildesley 32. Carter Coal. Willenhall.
Rosannah Tildesley 32. Walsall.
Frank Edgar Tildesley 9.
George Henry Tildesley 8.
Violet May Tildesley 7.
Florence Gertrude Tildesley 5.
Joseph Tildesley 4.
Edith Maud Tildesley 1.


Wednesbury St James.
Marriage date 06 Sep 1899.
Frank Edgar TILDESLEY. 21. Bachelor. Carpenter. 6 Bilston Rd. Joseph TILDESLEY. Publican (deceased).
Rosannah PRICE. 20. spinster. 11 Trouse Lane. Josiah. PRICE. stamper.
Witness 1 Josiah PRICE.
Witness 2 Susannah Jane TURNER.

[Jimmy]

1901. 6 Beeston Road, Wednesbury.
Susannah Tildesley 67. Widow.
Frank E Tildesley 22. Son.
Rosannah Tildesley 22. Daughter-in-law.
Frank E Tildesley 1. Grandson.

[Jimmy]

BUTLER, HARRIET ELIZABETH PROVERBS.
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 714.

Staffordshire Wood Green. St Paul.
Marriage date 25 Dec 1902.
John Francis BUTLER. 21. bachelor. Guard. 149 Walsall Rd Darlaston. James BUTLER. Bolt forger.
Elizabeth PROVERBS. 22. spinster. Wednesbury. Thomas PROVERBS. Fitter.
Witness 1 Thomas PROVERBS.
Witness 2 Florence Ann TIMMISS.

1911. 6 House 1 Court, Avenue Road, Darlaston.
John Francis Butler 29. Warehouseman. Darlaston.
Elizabeth Ann Butler 31. Wednesbury.
Harriett Butler 7. Darlaston.
George Butler 6. Tipton.
Stephen Butler 4. Tipton.
James William Butler 5/12. Tipton.

[geoff3d]

Be gratefull for earlier census on
1901. 6 Beeston Road, Wednesbury.
Susannah Tildesley 67. Widow.
Frank E Tildesley 22. Son.
Rosannah Tildesley 22. Daughter-in-law.
Frank E Tildesley 1. Grandson.
Geoff
unable to carry out searches with my existing equipment

[Jimmy]

BUTLER, JOHN FRANCIS KENT.
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 704.

1901. 149 Walsall Road, Darlaston.
James Butter 63. Bolt forger.
Harriet Butter 54.
James Butter 25.
Harriet Butter 23.
William Butter 21.
John Butter 19.
George Butter 17.
Stephen Butter 16.
Sarah Butter 10.

All born Darlaston.

i can't see a marriage for James Butler and Harriet.

[Jimmy]

1891. 35 Russell Street, Willenhall.
Susannah Tildesley 59. widow. shop keeper. Oakengates, Shropshire.
Hannah Tildesley 20.
Jeffory Tildesley 18.
Frank Tildesley 12.

others born Willenhall.

[Jimmy]

1881. 52 Wolverhampton Street, Willenhall.
Joseph Tildesley 47. Carter.
Susannah Tildesley 48. Wellington, Shropshire.
Isaac Tildesley 21.
Sarah Tildesley 19.
Joseph Tildesley 12.
Hannah Tildesley 10.
Jeffrey Tildesley 8.
Frank Tildesley 2.

Others born Willenhall.

[Jimmy]

TILDESLEY, FRANK EDGAR TEAGUE.
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 631.

Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 25 Jan 1857;
Joseph TILDESLEY. Bachelor. Labourer. Moore Street. Jeffery TILDESLEY. Publican.
Susannah TEAGUE. Spinster. Walsall Street. John TEAGUE. Labourer.
Witness 1 Mary BEECH.
Witness 2 Arthur WRIGHT.
Notes Banns; Grooms age is full; Brides age is full; Recorded by Benjamin WRIGHT.

[geoff3d]

Re jeffery above i wonder if there is a connection (PUBLICAN)
Members of the Tildesley family were, and still are, successful Willenhall businessmen, manufacturers, and professionals in many walks of life. The first family member known to have lived in Willenhall was Jeffery Tildesley who moved to the town from Tong in Shropshire around 1730. In 1731 he married Elizabeth Thomas, daughter of the landlord of the Bell Inn in Market Place.

Jeffery purchased the Bull’s Head Inn in Wolverhampton Street and ran it until his death on 11th February, 1792, at the age of 86.

He had a large family including 3 sons, John, Samuel, and Richard. He is buried in St. Giles’ Church where there is a memorial to him. In 1842 the Bull’s Head was run by a second Jeffery Tildesley, presumably Jeffery senior’s grandson.

[geoff3d]

Thanks have completed the Tildesley line back to 1640,
want to do the Norman Smith one now
Geoff