Pain and DAvies

[Northern Lass]

I am trying to find the birth registrations or baptisms of this lot
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =504313369

if anyone can help me find what they are regis or baptised as pls.

Also going back why is Noah married as a Pains
and dau sylvia is regis as Payne

can we find Noahs parents...bapt says wm and Mary but there are loads of wm and Mary Davies

and is that his actual bapt or is he actually baptised somewhere as a Pain.

[Northern Lass]

PAYNE, ROSANNAH WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 151

PAYNE, NOAH WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 286

PAYNE, MARY ANN WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 307....................does she die betw census

DAVIES, MARY ANN WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 155

PAYNE, JOSEPH WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 259

[Northern Lass]

Can't find Charlotte Payne or Davies b abt 1850

[mjay]

Found these posts through search on forum
search.php?keywords=Charlotte+davies

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22330&p=213728&hilit=Charlotte+davies#p213728

[Northern Lass]

PAINE, CHARLOTTE WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 230

DAVIS, MARIA WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 240

[Northern Lass]

Free reg
16 Mar 1840 St Martin Tipton
William PAINE - full age -Miner -Groom father - William PAINE -Groom father occupation Nailor
Gwinney - PETERS -full age-Bride father Thomas PETERS Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness1 Thomas TAYLOR
Witness2 Mary HOPKINS
Notes Groom, Bride & Witness 2 sign X

PAINE, WILLIAM HENRY PETERS
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 262


1841 Freebodies Dudley
William Davies 20 Puddler yes born in county
Gheeny Davies 20 no born in county
Mary Davies 70 no born in county
Elizabeth Davies 20 yes born in county
William Davies 5 months no born in county


1841. Freebodies, Dudley
James Woodall. 65, Shoe Maker,
Ann, 65,
Both born in County

1851. St Johns, Dudley
James Woodall, head, W, 78, Nailer, Dudley

He is living a few doors away from Noah, but name as Pains on census.

1851. St Johns Rd, Dudley.
Noah Pains 38. Puddler.
Eliza Pains 36.
Jas Pains 18.
Thos Pains 15.
Jane Pains 13.
Maria Pains 11.
Josh Pains 7.
Olive Pains 5. Is this Silveas,?
Caroline Pains 3. Is this Charlotte.?
All born Dudley.

[Northern Lass]

I think Noah William and Elizabeth maybe sibs but not sure

bowing out.

[kdwoodie]

I'm lost on this but looking on freereg found this

PAYNE, WILLIAM WOODALL
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 83

Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) Primitive Methodist Chape
Register entry number 5
Birth date 08 Jun 1853
Baptism date 22 Jun 1853
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Noah
Mother forename Eliza
Father surname PAYNE
Person abode Kates Hill
Father occupation Puddler

Cant see him on bcc

[Northern Lass]

he needs adding will try and do it unless you fancy adding?

I was trying to work out why Noah Davies bapt as Noah Davies took the name Payne or Pains
for some of his kids.

Do you think ...and this is sort of what I find...that if baptised they took the actual name
so if parents were not married and cos church knew everything...they were baptised in mothers name
but....took the fathers name...if known to register kids.

so maybe Noah s mother is a Davies but father is a Pains but they werent married?

beyond me

[kdwoodie]

Do you mind adding,, I have no idea why the name change it baffles me.

[Northern Lass]

completed with thanks