*Arc* James Brookes born 1819

[mumbles]

Another James Brookes puzzle but with a twist:-
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... 910106524-
James appears to have married an unmarried mother aged 37 and adopted her daughter Jane when he was 66 years old and had a son Joseph James Brookes when he was 68.
I am trying to find him before the marriage ?
BROOKES James SKELDING Lucy Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/6/481

Census records:-
1881 Moor Lane Kingswinford Staffs.
Susannah Skelding Head (wid) 62
Lucy Skelding dau 32 Hucksters Shop Keeper
Rosannah Skelding dau 24 Office Cleaner Brickworks (Char)
Jane B. Skelding grd.dau b. Stourbridge Worcs.
Rest born Brierley Hill Staffs.

1891 Census no no. Shop 1 Taylors Lane Oldbury Worcs.
James Brookes Head 72 Ge, Lab. born Rowley Staffs.
Lucy Brookes wife 43 born Brierley Hill Staffs.
Jane Brookes dau 16 born Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Brookes son 3 born Oldbury Worcs.

1901 Census 14 Taylors Lane Oldbury Worcs.
Lucy Brookes Head (wid) 52 Shopkeeper .Gen. Dealer born Brierley Hill Staffs.
Joseph Brookes son 13 Errand Boy born Oldbury Worcs.
William Biddulph boarder 21 Machinist in Boiler Yard born Birmingham Warks.

[gardener]

Hi
Is it possible he was married before? To an Eliza? There is a family which fits if that is the case,

[mumbles]

Could be gardener as age fits but I think what is needed is a marriage look up and I will research James and Eliza

[Northern Lass]

Is this now pending a look up ?

if so we can archive pending such

So flagging to archive

[Northern Lass]

Mumbles I have done the look up and I am wondering if it is this James Brookes here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =702772261

The father on the marriage look up is a Joseph
but I didnt want to connect without your ok on this
here he is with Lucy
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =375478364
and Marriage info in notes

by 1886 Joseph the father is deceased accord to sons marr doc
no occup for father on cert

if you think this is Joseph above for James I will join up the tree
let me know

[mumbles]

Hi Nl,
I need to look at tomorrow when I have more time.
Age of James from marriage is born 1827 possibly a fib and census is born 1819 so that would point away from 1812 James

[Northern Lass]

Hi mumbles will leave this one with you then
and will now flag to archive

[mumbles]

Nl,
It would appear that James Brookes born 1812 and James Brookes born 1819 are out of picture as ages are nowhere near 1819 needed.
The James Brookes that gardener identified who married an Eliza fits reference age but no way of proving unless we can find a link in Census details prior to those below:-
1861 Census Chapel Street Rowley Regis
James Brookes Head 41 Lime Burner
Eliza wife 42 born Sedgley Staffs.
Jane dau 13 Scholar born West Bromwich Staffs.
Maria Brookes dau 9 Scholar
James William Brookes son 1
Rest born Rowley Regis

1871 Census 1, William Street Kingswinford Staffs.
James Brookes Head 50 Lime Burner
Eliza Brookes wife 52 born Sedgley Staffs.
Jane Brookes dau Governess born West Bromwich Staffs.
Maria Brookes dau 19
James William Brookes 11
Rest born Rowley Regis

1881 Census 13, Bank Street Rowley Regis Staffs.
James William Brookes head 21 Engine Fitter at Works born Tividale Staffs.
Sarah Jane Brookes wife 21 born Brierley Hill Staffs.
James Brookes father 62 Engine Driver at Works born Rowley Regis
Eliza Brookes wife mother 62 born Princes End Staffs.

[mumbles]

Think these are 1841 and 1851 Census
1841 New Village Oldbury WEst Bromwich Shropshire
Hannah Brooks 60
James Brooks 20 Coke Burner
David Brooks 15
Samuel Brooks 18 Puddler
Henry Brooks 11 Labourer
All born in Shropshire

1851 Census Tividale Rowley Regis Staffs.
James Brooks Head 29 Coal Collieryman
Eliza Brooks wife 31 Sedgley
Hannah inmate (wid) 74 born Rowley Regis

Marriage to Eliza Griffiths June 1845 Dudley

It would appear that Hannah shown above is possibly grandmother of James David, Samuel and Henry as age would suggest not mother

[mumbles]

Complete as had to add a new James to bcc as could not make connection to other James Brookes's on site
Have added a lot of Census details validating marriage of this James Brookes to Eliza Griffiths family