Francis Carter Ball...Jo sorting

[grangers14]

I am so puzzled with this family?
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... onnections

Is this the birth of Mary Ann, 6 months in 1841?
BALL, MARY ANN WHORTON
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in THE WALSALL UNION Volume 17 Page 232

Marriage says
Marriage Freereg
20th April 1840. Christ Church, Coseley.
Francis Carter Ball, FA, W, Miner, Sedgley, Francis Carter Ball, Nailor (deceased)
Hannah Foster, FA, W, Sedgley, William Walton, Miner
Witnesses, Ann Mason, William Wolverson
Transcriber note. Brides Fathers surname could possibly read Walter

Ann Mason as witness to the marriage, was she the same peron living with them in 1841?

[Jimmy]

Wolverhampton St Peter.
Marriage date 22 May 1831.
Benjamin FOSTER.
Hannah WALTON.
Witness 1 John STONE.
Witness 2 John BIDDULPH
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield,
File line number 442.

[Jimmy]

Darlaston St Lawrence.
Burial date 04 Apr 1835.
Benjamin FOSTER. age 28.
Burial person abode Church Street.
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield.
File line number 1535.

Darlaston St Lawrence.
Baptism date 08 Jan 1832.
William FOSTER.
Father Benjamin FOSTER.
Hannah FOSTER.
Person abode Church Street. Father occupation Miner.
Transcribed by Liz Plummer.
File line number 1441.

[kdwoodie]

I'm confused

On BCC you have Francis Carter Ball Abt 1812 with father Francis Carter Ball abt 1787
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=475479

The baptism for Francis son of Francis and Ruth is
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Unspecified
Birth date 16 Jan 1790
Baptism date 28 Nov 1790
Person forename Francis
Person sex M
Father forename Francis
Mother forename Ruth
Father surname CARTER
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield
File line number 1929

I cannot see a baptism for Francis 1779 you have on BCC
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=475479

Is the 1790 Francis the father of Francis 1812.

Out on a limb here but what do you think of this
Benjamin Foster who married Hannah could be a brother to Daniel Foster who married Nancy Carter

Possible marriage for Daniel and Benjamins parents
Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 193
Marriage date 01 Nov 1784
Groom forename Daniel
Groom surname FOSTER
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Nancy
Bride surname SIVORN
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 Thomas FOSTER
Witness2 Elizh. SIVORN
Notes Both signed X
Transcribed by Liz Plummer
File line number 601

Baptisms
Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 02 Oct 1805
Person forename Benjamin
Person sex M
Father forename Daniel
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname FOSTER
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield
File line number 670

Family Search
Name:
Daniel Foster
Event Type:
Baptism
Event Date:
07 Feb 1790
Event Place:
Darlaston, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Parish:
St Lawrence
Father's Name:
Daniel Foster
Mother's Name:
Nancy Foster
Affiliate Image Identifier:
D1149/1/8

On The 1841 Census there is Samuel Mason next door
Name:
Samuel Mason
Event Type:
Baptism
Event Date:
26 Oct 1817
Event Place:
Wednesfield, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Wednesfield, Staffordshire, England
Parish:
St Thomas
Father's Name:
John Mason
Mother's Name:
Ann Mason
Affiliate Image Identifier:
D3232/26

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church name St Peter
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 07 Jun 1802
Groom forename John
Groom surname MASON
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname CARTER
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 572

If i am confusing things please say and i will stop

[grangers14]

I put the wrong year of birth! I have corrected it now.

[grangers14]

Thank you Jimmy. I had that.

[Northern Lass]

are you still working on this Jo or shall I archive?

will sticky but if done with can you de sticky and move to arc thanks

[grangers14]

Yes I am working on it and will archive when done.

[grangers14]

I am a bit confused with what you put kdwoodie?

Samuel Mason who was living nextdoor in 1841, I have followed him, he is actually James
added here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =987079943

His wife Mary
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =616340763

Mary's 2nd marriage to William Gough
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =481970461

His Father here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =717409452



I also have this?
1841. Pardoes Lane, Darlaston.
Nancy Foster, 40, ?
Shadrack, 13, Nail Forger,
Ruth Carter, 84,
Joseph, 40? Screw Forger
Sarah Ball, 60, Nail Forger,
Esther, 25, Nail forger,
Samuel, 5,
Martha Pugh, 26, Bed Screwer, Not born in County
Phebe Foster, 7
All others born in County


All the names in the same household!

[kdwoodie]

Samuel Mason was next door to Francis Ball on the 1841 census, i didn't follow him on census just looked for a baptism and found a marriage for a Mason and Carter.

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church name St Peter
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 07 Jun 1802
Groom forename John
Groom surname MASON
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname CARTER
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 572

Is Ann a daughter of Francis Carter and Ruth Spittle ?
Could Samuel be James ?

The other connection i was trying to make was this if you can understand

Benjamin Foster who married Hannah Walton (Who also married Francis Carter Ball abt 1812)
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=478243

Is he the brother of Daniel Foster who married Nancy Carter(The sister of Francis Carter abt 1790 )
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=478242

Possible marriage for Daniel and Benjamins parents
Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 193
Marriage date 01 Nov 1784
Groom forename Daniel
Groom surname FOSTER
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Nancy
Bride surname SIVORN
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 Thomas FOSTER
Witness2 Elizh. SIVORN
Notes Both signed X
Transcribed by Liz Plummer
File line number 601

Baptisms
Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 02 Oct 1805
Person forename Benjamin
Person sex M
Father forename Daniel
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname FOSTER
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield
File line number 670

Family Search
Name:
Daniel Foster
Event Type:
Baptism
Event Date:
07 Feb 1790
Event Place:
Darlaston, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Parish:
St Lawrence
Father's Name:
Daniel Foster
Mother's Name:
Nancy Foster
Affiliate Image Identifier:
D1149/1/8


Are the parents of Francis Carter Ball Abt 1812 Sarah Ball on the 1841 census and Francis Carter 1790 on BCC (Would that tie all the families together)
County Staffordshire
Place Willenhall
Church name St Giles
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 30 Nov 1812
Person forename Francis
Person sex M
Father forename Francis
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname CARTER
Person abode Darlaston

1841. Pardoes Lane, Darlaston.
Nancy Foster, 40, ? (Nancy Carter who married Daniel Foster )
Shadrack, 13, Nail Forger,(Son of Nancy and Daniel)
Ruth Carter, 84,(Nancys Mother)
Joseph, 40? Screw Forger (Nancys Brother)
Sarah Ball, 60, Nail Forger,(Motherof Francis Carter Ball ?)
Esther, 25, Nail forger,(Daughter of Sarah Ball)
Samuel, 5,(?)
Martha Pugh, 26, Bed Screwer, Not born in County(?)
Phebe Foster, 7 (?)
All others born in County


County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church name St Lawrence
Register type Other Transcript
Register entry number 680
Baptism date 11 Jun 1815
Person forename Esther
Person sex F
Mother forename Sarah
Mother surname BALL
Person abode Green
Father occupation Nailer
Notes Illegitimate

Is Samuel, 5, The son of Esther ?
No idea who Phebe belongs to.

Sorry if i have confused you

[grangers14]

I just keep going on a tangent with this family!
I think some were not married and names added as middle names then also mixed up with marriages!
I am still adding...

[grangers14]

I think I have added all that I can...