Copied over from Gideon Nelson Billingham Cradley Heath post cos it's getting too confusing
kdwoodie wrote:1911 Census Name: Nelson Billingham Age in 1911: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Adopted Gender: Male Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 47 Miller St Bham Registration district: Aston Registration District Number: 385 Sub-registration district: Duddeston ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 18248 Household Members: Name Age Betsy Foxley 68 Fredrick James Foxley 27 May C C Bashford 18 Nelson Billingham 10
Betsy Foxley is Charlotte Potters Mother who was supposed to have adopted George Nelson Ellis
1st Marriage Name: George N Billingham Registration Date: Oct 1919 [Nov 1919] [Dec 1919] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Aston Inferred County: Warwickshire Spouse: Violet Porter Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1209
2nd Marriage Name: George N Ellis Registration Date: Jan 1948 [Feb 1948] [Mar 1948] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Spouse: Florence E Meredith Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 326
From a tree on Ancestry his Marriage cert to Violet says father Nelson George Billingham Deceased Chain Maker. It gives his address as 47 Miller Street There is an image of the marriage cert but don't know if i am allowed to post on here
George Nelson Ellis Billingham was the adopted son of Charlotte Foxley and Albert Potter. His mother was supposed to be Edith May Ellis according to this
by mallosa » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:27 pm
billingham, I think It's worth looking at the message board on Ancestry
Thanks for your feedback. My grandfather George Nelson Ellis born 21/11/1901 reg 1902 Aston illegitimate son of Gideon Nelson Billingham and Edith May Ellis but only his mother's name is on b.cert. By 1911 Census, Edith May Ellis is not around (my grandad had no memory of her or Gideon N) someone, knowing that Gideon Nelson Billingham was George's father, and having been 'adopted' by the Folxleys at some stage, has had George's name recorded as Nelson Billingham. He used this name through WW1/1st marriage/ birth registration of first 3 sons until 1933/34 when he had the certificates legally annotated to show his legal registered birth name of George Nelson Ellis. We've had our DNA results matched and we are absolutely descended from Gideon Nelson Billingham (along with Edith May Ellis and her father George). Gideon Nelson is not the Gideon (no Nelson) who married Amy Smith/Wellings who went to Warrington where he died - his father was William. He is not Nelson Billingham who died in 1951 - he was b.1895, was a grocer. We have tried all kinds of permutations to find 1911 Census - he ceased his partnership with Thomas Grice in 1902...after that, no records for him anywhere, doing anything!
It's been an interesting journey for us using our DNA expert, especially as a result of the work, we find we have a new 1st half cousin as grandad George had an illegitimate son in 18930, that no one knew anything about!! But we still don't know where Gideon N and Edith May went to after 1901....
Did you get the image of the Marriage cert, there was a declaration by Charlotte Elizabeth Potter in the right margin
Sorry kdwoodie, I missed that!
It says....
In entry 188 col 2 for George Nelson Billingham, read George Nelson Ellis otherwise George Nelson Billingham and column 3 for "21" (mans age) read "17" Corrected on the 5th May 1933 by me L E Hadfield Registrar in the presence of G N Ellis and V Ellis (parties married) A Statutory Declaration as to the facts having been made by Charlotte Elizabeth Potter
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