PLEASE ARCHIVE - another William Ralph

[mallosa]

Here on BCC ....

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =934702354

The only marriage I can find is

Marriage 1888
RALPH William HATCHCROFT Mary A Tipton, St John Sandwell Register Office 36/1/381

but on 1911 census it says they have been married 18 yrs

[mallosa]

....er hang on I've found it

Freereg

Parish Register
Register entry number 380
Marriage 21 May 1888 St John the Evangelist Princes End, Staffordshire
William RALPH 20 bachelor Boat Loader Tipton Samuel HICKINBOTTOM Boat Loader
Mary Ann HATCHCROFT 18 spinster Tipton John HATCHCROFT Miner
Witness1 Elijah GRIFFITHS
Witness2 Ruth PEARSON
Notes Bride signs X. Grooms surname is different from his fathers.
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield
File line number 383

or have I?

[mallosa]

Found this...not sure if anything fits though...JIMMY!!

1881 Census: 2 Brown Lion Street, Tipton (next to Bloomfield Road)
Samuel Hickingbottom 26 Head Lab in Colliery
Mary Hickingbottom 34 Wife
Elizabeth Hickingbottom 6 Dau
Thomas Ralph 30 Lodger M Lab in Iron Works
Mary J. Ralph 30 Lodger
John T. Ralph 6 Lodger
Samuel Ralph 5 Lodger
(all born Tipton)

1891: 17 Wednesbury Oak Road, Tipton
Mary Hickenbottom 44 Head Wid
Elizabeth Hickenbottom 16 Dau
Samuel Hickenbottom 9 Son
Thomas Ralph 18 adopted son Coal Miner S
Samuel Ralph 14 adopted son Furnace Man
(all born Tipton)

1891 Census: 5 No1 Crt Wednesbury Oak Road, Tipton
William Ralph 22 Head Coal Miner
Mary A Ralph 20 Wife
William Ralph 2 Son
Samuel Ralph 5 mths Son
(all born Tipton)

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GRO

HICKINBOTTOM, SAMUEL RALPH
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 50

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22nd December 1873. St James, Dudley
Samuel Hickebottom, 20, Benjamin Hickebottom
Mary Ralph, 25, John Ralph

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
RALPH Mary HICKEBOTTOM Samuel Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/007/85

[mallosa]

Thanks Jo, I think this is them...Mary is the sister of William here on BCC -

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=468948

1851 Census: Lower Green, Tipton
John Ralph 47 Head Lab (Not Known)
Elizabeth Ralph 45 Wife
Joseph Ralph 21 Son U Puddler
Lucy Ralph 19 Dau U Nailer
Elizabeth Ralph 16 Dau U Nailer
John Ralph 15 Son Boatman?
Ann Ralph 11 Dau
William Ralph 8 Son
Samuel Ralph 5 Son
Mary Ralph 4 Dau
Thomas Ralph 10 Mo Son
Ann Morgan 14 Niece
(others born Tipton)

[mallosa]

....er hang on I've found it

Freereg

Parish Register
Register entry number 380
Marriage 21 May 1888 St John the Evangelist Princes End, Staffordshire
William RALPH 20 bachelor Boat Loader Tipton Samuel HICKINBOTTOM Boat Loader
Mary Ann HATCHCROFT 18 spinster Tipton John HATCHCROFT Miner
Witness1 Elijah GRIFFITHS
Witness2 Ruth PEARSON
Notes Bride signs X. Grooms surname is different from his fathers.
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield
File line number 383

or have I?

Confused now

How is Williams father a Samuel Hickinbottom?

Looks like this one here - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =805527038