*Arc tbc* --New User Jeff

[Jeffrich55]

Hi,

I'm researching my main maternal family lines which are, Halesowen Lapal Fletcher's, Blackheath Rowley Regis Fletcher's Halesowen and Blackheath Adams, Hurst Green and Blackheath Andrews, Lapal Cutlers.

I'm interested in a few probabilities that need further substantiation.

I think that a Sarah Bates b 1786/87 I think married Thomas Adams b1786. I can only find a marriage in 1811 in Oldswinford. Why they would marry in Oldswinford I don't know. Suspect their could be another Thomas Adams and Sarah Bate perhaps. Also Sarah Adams is living with Thomas in Blackheath 1841 census. I'm aware of another Sarah Adams in 1851 or 1861 living in Rowley Regis but was born in Manchester. I did find what I believe to be my Sarah Adams in the same census living with two of her sons whose ages fit in Rowley Regis but I can't find the records now.( Will have to rejoin Ancestry!) So I don't think the Manchester Sarah belongs to Thomas Adams and their children Mary Adams b approx 1812, Hannah Adams 1814 John Adams 1816 (my direct descendant) Joseph Adams 1818 Samuel Adams 1822 Sarah Adams 1825 d 1825 Thomas Adams 1827 William Adams 1828
Any links or further clarification gratefully received.

Regards Jeff

[peterd]

hi jeff and welcome to the forum

you might be intrested in this link to bcc a tree were building of the entire black country families think this is your thomas and sarah

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =787208970

[mallosa]

Hiya Jeff, welcome to the Forum!

[Northern Lass]

I remember looking at this lot
the Hazlewood kids were the connection to this family.
but it was a while ago

Then John andLucy have a hazlewood with them too

1851 Blackheath Rowley Regis

John Adams Head age 35 Nailor B. Blackheath Staffs
Lucy 34 Nailor B. Cakemore Worcs
Carline 10 Nailor Ditto
Thomas 6 Ditto
Eliza 4 Ditto
Hanah 3 Ditto
Joseph 1 Ditto
Mary Harelwood Niece 12 B. Sidford Worcs

and Eliz Hazelwood is herewith Johns parents....

1851 Black heath Rowley Regis
Thomas Adams 63 h
Sarah 64 b manchester
Thomas 24 u b RR
Hannah Adams visitor m 61 Ashborne leics
Elizabeth Hazlewood serv 6 b Tidford Shrops
NB Bates family ie Charles Bates and Wife Hannah (nee Adams) 2 doors away

[Northern Lass]

Flagging now to archive
it can always be brought back to the board with more info

So unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs

[peterd]

I remember looking at this lot
the Hazlewood kids were the connection to this family.
but it was a while ago

Then John andLucy have a hazlewood with them too

1851 Blackheath Rowley Regis

John Adams Head age 35 Nailor B. Blackheath Staffs
Lucy 34 Nailor B. Cakemore Worcs
Carline 10 Nailor Ditto
Thomas 6 Ditto
Eliza 4 Ditto
Hanah 3 Ditto
Joseph 1 Ditto
Mary Harelwood Niece 12 B. Sidford Worcs

and Eliz Hazelwood is herewith Johns parents....

1851 Black heath Rowley Regis
Thomas Adams 63 h
Sarah 64 b manchester
Thomas 24 u b RR
Hannah Adams visitor m 61 Ashborne leics
Elizabeth Hazlewood serv 6 b Tidford Shrops
NB Bates family ie Charles Bates and Wife Hannah (nee Adams) 2 doors away

hazlewood is a link jeff as here in 1841 and sarah down as born rowley but this may be an enumarator or transcript error put right by later censuses also hannah adams is there in both censuses

1841 Census:-Blackheath , Rowley Regis
Thomas Adams 54 Rowley Nailer
Sarah Adams 55 Rowley
Hannah Adams 51 Not Staffs.
Joseph Adams 23 Rowley
Samuel Adams 19 Rowley
Thomas Adams 14 Rowley
William Adams 12 Rowley
Sarah Hazlewood age 5

[peterd]

1861 Black heath RR
Sarah Adams wid 75 b Manchester
Hannah Adams visitor 70 b Ashby de la zouche Leics
Thomas Adams u 36 b RR

nb Samuel Adams and wife Phoebe (nee Downing ) live next door.

sarah and hannah again in 1861

[peterd]

1881 97 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford

John ADAMS 66 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Lucy ADAMS 65 Cakemore, Worcester,


next door

1881 98 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Isac ADAMS 55 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Shoe Maker
Hannah ADAMS Wi 55 Corsey Green, Worcester, Nail Forger
Walter ADAMS So 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Shoe Maker
Alfred ADAMS 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Shoe Maker
Pharoah ADAMS 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Shoe Maker



and at

1881, 107 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford

Joseph ADAMS 62 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer
Ann ADAMS 61 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
James ADAMS 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford,



there also some at 87 Halesowen St

[Northern Lass]

If you can add any of that Peterd that we don't have on BCC please do

This will be moved to archived and can always be brought back from there via a pm to a mod
So Jeff let us know when you wish to delve more on this.

[Northern Lass]

Here you are Jeff brought back to the forum

[peterd]

1881, 107 Halesowen St Rowley Regis, Stafford

Joseph ADAMS 62 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer
Ann ADAMS 61 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
James ADAMS 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


poss on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =737377576


any one find any earlier census please

[mallosa]

1871: Halesowen St, Rowley Regis

Joseph Adams 52 Nailer
Ann Adams 50 H/Owen

Children
Job Adams 20 U
Jemima Adams 18 U
Alfred Adams 15
Arthur Adams 13
James Adams 8
others born R/Regis

[mallosa]

1861: Bell End, Rowley Regis, Staffs

Joseph Adams 42
Ann Adams 40

Children
Joseph Adams 16
Jonah Adams 14
Job Adams 10
Jemima Adams 8
Alfred Adams 4
Arthur Adams 8

[mallosa]

1851: Lilley Pot Row, Rowley Regis

Joseph Adams 32 Nail Forger
Ann Adams 30

Children
Elizebeth Adams 8
Joseph Adams 6
Josiah Adams 4
Job Adams 6 Mo

1841: Village, Rowley Regis

Joseph Adams 20 Nailer
Ann Adams 20

Children
Josiah Adams 11 Mo (not sure if this one died and the Josiah in 1851 should say Jonah as in 1861)
Found this birth: 1846 - ADAMS Jonah Rowley Regis RR/9/384 - what do we think?

Living 4 doors away -Ann's Parents?

William Paynes 50 Wright Hinger?
Elizabeth Paynes 50
William Paynes 20
Eliza Paynes 15
Laura Paynes 12
(n) none born in county

[mallosa]

Poss
Marriage 1838
ADAMS Joseph PAYNE Ann Halesowen, St John the Baptist 014/001/37