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*Arc * -Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:27 am
by Nutsy
Have had a marriage lookup done for one of my ancestors and the witnesses were an Isaac and Luie Rollason. Don't know if there is any connection to my Harris family with these guys, but would like to check them out a bit further.

1897
ROLLASON Isaac SHAW Luie Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/3/153

Have found Isaac and family on the 1881 census

Joseph William ROLLASON Head M Male 26 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Unemployed Laborer
Hannah ROLLASON Wife M Female 25 West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Ellen ROLLASON Daur U Female 6 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Scholar
Elizabeth ROLLASON Daur Female 4 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Scholar
Isaac ROLLASON Son Male 2 West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Elizabeth ROBINSON Mother In Law W Female 60 West Bromwich, Stafford, England


Also found a marriage for Isaac and Luie (Shaw) in 1897

Marriage for parents Joseph and Hannah (Dickinson) in 1874


BUT.... here is the big question. In 1881 it shows Elizabeth Robinson Mother in Law living with them, yet Hannah's surname at marriage was Dickinson :?

Soooooooo can anyone find any of these people on a later census at all?

Have added the family above to connections...http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =221339664

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:44 am
by FarSide
1891
17
Halford Street, Harborne
Joseph W Rollason 37 - Ironworker
Hannah Rollason 36
Elizabeth Rollason 14 - Screw woman? or wouner
Isaac Rollason 12
Florry Rollason 6 - b Smethwick
Lily Rollason 4 - b Smethwick
Joseph W Rollason 2 - b Smethwick
others b West Bromwich

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:50 am
by peterd
poss elizabeth second marriage

DICKINSON Elizabeth ROBINSON John 1864 West Bromwich, All Saints West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 22/10/351


might find these on 1871 census with hannah that would confirm it ?

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:06 am
by Nutsy
peterd wrote:poss elizabeth second marriage

DICKINSON Elizabeth ROBINSON John 1864 West Bromwich, All Saints West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 22/10/351


might find these on 1871 census with hannah that would confirm it ?




Good one Pete... that would explain the Robinson on 1881 census :-)

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:26 am
by Northern Lass
FarSide wrote:1891
17
Halford Street, Harborne
Joseph W Rollason 37 - Ironworker
Hannah Rollason 36
Elizabeth Rollason 14 - Screw woman? or wouner
Isaac Rollason 12
Florry Rollason 6 - b Smethwick
Lily Rollason 4 - b Smethwick
Joseph W Rollason 2 - b Smethwick
others b West Bromwich


add this census too if you get a min Nutsy
:wink:

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:28 am
by kdw
in 1901 there are 2 Isaac Rollasons.
1901 Banners Lane Cradley
Isaac Rollason 27 Head Ironworker B. Dudley Worcs
Louisa Rollason 23 Chain MakerB. Cradley Heath Staffs

1901 40 Stoney Lane Smethwick
John H Alder 31 Head Range (Stove) Fitter B. B'ham Warks
Sarah A Alder 33 B. B'ham Warks
Isaac Rollason 22 Single Boarder Range ( Stove)Fitter B. West Bromwich Staffs

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:32 am
by Northern Lass
Nutsy
we have to verify the marriage first

So I am deleting the lucy shaw and Isaac connection

We have to be sure that that Isaac with that father married Lucy shaw

:?

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:36 am
by Nutsy
Right you are NL... no probs :-)

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:37 am
by Nutsy
Northern Lass wrote:
FarSide wrote:1891
17
Halford Street, Harborne
Joseph W Rollason 37 - Ironworker
Hannah Rollason 36
Elizabeth Rollason 14 - Screw woman? or wouner
Isaac Rollason 12
Florry Rollason 6 - b Smethwick
Lily Rollason 4 - b Smethwick
Joseph W Rollason 2 - b Smethwick
others b West Bromwich


add this census too if you get a min Nutsy
:wink:



Done NL :-)

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:42 am
by Northern Lass
Ok look that family is good for that census info.

now you need to add look up for that Isaac and Lucy see if father is Joseph.

we can archive this then pending look up
and we can run with the other bit for this family on the other thread

ie Hannah Dickenson
so Elizabeths info can be added and I will copy that across

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:48 am
by Nutsy
Glad you know what you're doing NL.. cos I think you just lost me :lol: I'll catch up in a tic... just need to find everything again and I'll be right... :wink:

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:51 am
by Northern Lass
Ok this is a good one to run with Nutsy

but we now need to work on the other post Hannah Dickenson and Joseph Rollason

this thread needs a marriage look up see if Issac has father Joseph who married Lucy which it should have..hoping
as the other Isaac is with a John in 1901...but as a lodger so not sure who his father is

think that is correct
or Have i lost it :shock:

Re: Rollason Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:53 am
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:in 1901 there are 2 Isaac Rollasons.
1901 Banners Lane Cradley
Isaac Rollason 27 Head Ironworker B. Dudley Worcs
Louisa Rollason 23 Chain MakerB. Cradley Heath Staffs

1901 40 Stoney Lane Smethwick
John H Alder 31 Head Range (Stove) Fitter B. B'ham Warks
Sarah A Alder 33 B. B'ham Warks
Isaac Rollason 22 Single Boarder Range ( Stove)Fitter B. West Bromwich Staffs


Is she Lousia
Lucy
or what?

1897
ROLLASON Isaac SHAW Luie Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/3/153


did she sign as Lucy Rollason on a marriage as a witness

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:03 pm
by Nutsy
Witness
Isaac Rollason/Louie Rollason


That was to Ann Rebecca Harris and John James Griffin marriage that kdw looked up

Re: Issac Rollason - Lucy Shaw Family

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:13 pm
by Northern Lass
Births Mar 1877
SHAW Louisa Stourbridge 6c 191


Births Sep 1877
SHAW Lois Dudley 6c 17


Births Sep 1879
Shaw Louisa Dudley 6c 86

which one?