*ARC TBC* Caroline Bastable b abt 1873? Jo Adding...

[Northern Lass]

CAn anyone find her on census pls
father is a Michael Bastable
mother maybe a smith....
BASTABLE, CAROLINE SMITH
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 11

marriage on free reg
Church name St Paul
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 32
Marriage date 3 Sep 1891
Groom forename Benjamin
Groom surname PLANT
Groom age 21
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Blackheath
Groom occupation miner
Bride forename Caroline
Bride surname BASTABLE
Bride age 18
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Blackheath
Groom father forename Richmond
Groom father surname PLANT
Groom father occupation fishmonger
Bride father forename Michael
Bride father surname BASTABLE
Bride father occupation labourer
Witness Decimus LOWE
Witness Mary Ann TAYLOR
Register note

and on Bcc she is here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... d=34843794

questions
-Is Michael on Bcc already...maybe a Basterfield or similar spelling.
where is his marriage

Is Smith mother of Caroline?

[Jimmy]

From James Bastable post,,

Dudley St Andrews.
Marriage date 03 Apr 1859.
James BASTERFIELD. Full age. bachelor. Netherton. Miner. James BASTERFIELD. Mason.
Jane Smith. Full age. Spinster. Samuel Smith. Horsenail Maker.
Witness
William GOWER.
Witness
Elizabeth SMITH.

[grangers14]

Could Caroline be Catherine?

1881. Oak? Mill Row, Cakemore
Michael Bastable, head, 50, General labourer, Causeway Green
Sarah, wife, 46, Nail Maker, Oldbury
Harriet Plant, daur, M, 27, Nail maker, Tat Bank
William Bastable, son, 18, General Labourer, Old Hill
Sarah, daur, 16, Working Brick yard, Old Hill
David, son, 12, Rowley
Catherine, 7, Rowley

1891. Ross, ? Rowley Regis
Michael Bastable, head,
Sarah Bastable, wife, 59,
David, son, 24, M, General Labourer,
Rebecca, daur in Law, M, 22
Herbert, G son, 8 months
Catherine, daur, 20, Brick maker
All born Rowley Regis

[grangers14]

Micheal here on bcc
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=422622

[Jimmy]

BASTABLE, CATHERINE HARVEY.
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 25.

Quinton Christchurch.
Marriage date 31 Dec 1855.
Michael BASTABLE. bachelor. Warley Wigorn. labourer. John BASTABLE. Brick layer.
Sarah HARVEY. 20. spinster. Warley Wigorn. servant. John HARVEY. miner.
Witness
Phoebe LOWE.
Witness
David DEELEY.
Register note Groom Full Age.

[Jimmy]

1901. 59 Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Plant 32. Labourer brick yard.
Caroline Plant 30. Halesowen.
Warwick Plant 7.
Benjamin Plant 2.

Others born Rowley Regis.

1911. 30 Church Road, Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Plant 41. Chemical Labourer.
Kate Plant 38.
Warrick Plant 17.
Benjamin Plant 14.

Married 19 years, 8 children 6 died.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks I will try and add this

if anyone wishes to add till I can pls jump in

[grangers14]

I have added here...
Michael Bastable
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =505681317

Benjamin Bastable here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =322077527

This Benjamin Plant I have changed
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =745683422

I think it is this one
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =926384872

I have ordered the cert for Benjamin and Fanny marriage as it is register office.
Is that enough for now NL pending cert?
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jo but question..

The Benjamin Plant married to Catherine/Caroline has father Richmond
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=422958

so how can it be this one?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =926384872

PLANT, BENJAMIN LOWE Order
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 12

[Northern Lass]

This one
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =181986775
b 1870 mother downing is this one

PLANT, WILLIAM BENJAMIN DOWNING Order
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 24

I will amend.

[grangers14]

Sorry not worded myself correctly.
On BCC a Benjamin Plant had been noted to possibly married a Francis James, her name is actually Fanny, I changed that, and noted his father as Richmond. That isn't right. I think that Benjamin Plant who married Fanny is this one https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=422960

[Northern Lass]

So this marriage
1893
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PLANT Benjamin JAMES Fanny Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/014/105

Benjamins birth name is William Benjamin according to gro.
but down as Benjamin on census

so the one with father Benjamin is here in 1891
1891. 6 Dog Lane, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Plant, head, 59, Blast Furnace Labourer
Elizabeth, wife, 57, Dudley
Louisa, daur, 23, domestic servant
Benjamin, 21, Blast furnace labourer
James, son, 19, Blast furnace labourer
Joseph, son, 16, Colliery labourer
Henry, son, 7
All others born Rowley Regis

and you think this one in 1901 is same one?
1901 Census Attwood Street Hawne Halesowen
Benjamin Plant 31 Bundler in Ironworks born Rowley Regis
Fanny Plant Wife 28 born Halesowen.

[grangers14]

Yep. That is the marriage I have ordered as it is a reg one.

[Northern Lass]

Ok...

I can't see a death date for this Benjamin or William Benjamin as he was registered when born.

[grangers14]

The marriage cert arrived today...

Marriage Certificate.
17th September 1893. Stourbridge Register Office.
Benjamin Plant, 23, B, Stock Taker at Iron Worker, Hill Street, Spring Hill, Halesowen, Benjamin Plant, General Labourer
Fanny James, 21, S, Hill Street, Spring Hill, Halesowen, John James, General Labourer
Married in the Hasbury Chapel, Primitive Methodists by certificate, by William Price, James Barratt, Registrar
Witnesses, J Male, Ellen Price