Can anyone advise as to how I can trace my paternal great grandfathers place of birth. I know his year of birth, his fathers name and the fact that he was Irish? He settled in Manchester on arriving in the U.K.
Any tips would be greatfully appreciated.
ARC TBC Irish search
Moderators: grangers14, admin, BC Wench
-
Northstarxxx
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:09 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Kelly
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Ireland
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
Hi there, welcome to the forum!
Perhaps if you can give more details ie ....name/year of birth/and anything else you may have that could help?
Perhaps if you can give more details ie ....name/year of birth/and anything else you may have that could help?
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
Northstarxxx
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:09 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Kelly
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Ireland
Re: Irish search
The information I have is that my great grandfather James Kelly was born in Ireland in 1852, his father being Lawrence Kelly. At some point James Kelly left Ireland and moved to Manchester,where he married a Catherine McNally in 1880.
I was hoping to find out where in Ireland the family originated.
I was hoping to find out where in Ireland the family originated.
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
If you have James' marriage cert does it give his his father's occupation?
Another thought....do you know for definate that James was born in Ireland and not Manchester?
Another thought....do you know for definate that James was born in Ireland and not Manchester?
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
Northstarxxx
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:09 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Kelly
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Ireland
Re: Irish search
I have James Kelly's marriage certificate but it does not say where he was born, the certificate was registered in Manchester, it just mentions his fathers name but as deceased.
-
Northstarxxx
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:09 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Kelly
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Ireland
Re: Irish search
It mentions his fathers occupation as that of a hawker.
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
I wonder if this is him, given that he has named his first born son Lawrence
1901: 58 Style Street, Manchester
James Kelly 48 Head Print? Finishers Lab
Catherine Kelly 43 Wife
Lawrence Kelly 19 Son Print? Finishers Lab
James Kelly 15 Son
Thomas Kelly 8 Son
Joseph Kelly 6 Son
(all born Manchester)
There is a John Kelly age 47 (widower) living at No 74 , not sure if related though
1901: 58 Style Street, Manchester
James Kelly 48 Head Print? Finishers Lab
Catherine Kelly 43 Wife
Lawrence Kelly 19 Son Print? Finishers Lab
James Kelly 15 Son
Thomas Kelly 8 Son
Joseph Kelly 6 Son
(all born Manchester)
There is a John Kelly age 47 (widower) living at No 74 , not sure if related though
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
1861: 5 bk of Bilberry Street, Manchester, Lancs
Larance Kelly 44 Head Labourer born Ireland
Mary Kelly 42 Wife born Ireland
Thomas Kelly 22 Son Unm Lab Manchester
James Kelly 10 Son Manchester
Patrick Mc Cormock 23 Unm Tailor Boarder Ireland
Patrick Dolan 30 Wid Lodger Bricklayers Lab Ireland
Larence Dolan 8 Son Manchester
John Fitzgerald 17 Lodger unm Learning the Cabinet trade
John Henery 20 Lodger Unm Lab Ireland
Larance Kelly 44 Head Labourer born Ireland
Mary Kelly 42 Wife born Ireland
Thomas Kelly 22 Son Unm Lab Manchester
James Kelly 10 Son Manchester
Patrick Mc Cormock 23 Unm Tailor Boarder Ireland
Patrick Dolan 30 Wid Lodger Bricklayers Lab Ireland
Larence Dolan 8 Son Manchester
John Fitzgerald 17 Lodger unm Learning the Cabinet trade
John Henery 20 Lodger Unm Lab Ireland
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
BC Wench
- Posts: 3348
- Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: PARGETER, BELCHER, CARELESS, DANDO, LANGDELL, ROWLEY, BRADLEY
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
- Contact:
Re: Irish search
mallosa wrote:I wonder if this is him, given that he has named his first born son Lawrence
1901: 58 Style Street, Manchester
James Kelly 48 Head Print? Finishers Lab
Catherine Kelly 43 Wife
Lawrence Kelly 19 Son Print? Finishers Lab
James Kelly 15 Son
Thomas Kelly 8 Son
Joseph Kelly 6 Son
(all born Manchester)
There is a John Kelly age 47 (widower) living at No 74 , not sure if related though
Looks as though you are right Mally.
From GRO Birth Index - Mother's surname McNally
KELLY, LAURANCE MCNALLY
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 269
KELLY, JAMES MCNALLY
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 286
KELLY, THOMAS MCNALLY
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 328
KELLY, JOSEPH MCNALLY
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 315
Researching: PARGETER, BELCHER, BRADLEY, DANDO, ROWLEY, ROWSELL
-
Northstarxxx
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:09 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Kelly
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Ireland
Re: Irish search
Can anyone suggest how I may trace them to their place of origin in Ireland?
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
I've been looking to see if I can find more but it's not happening 
Jimmy the Cat might be able to find something......JIMMY!!
Jimmy the Cat might be able to find something......JIMMY!!
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
wait a minute.... 
1881: 90 Naylor Street, Manchester, Lancashire
Laurance Kelly 49 Head Hawker Ireland
Elizabeth Kelly 48 Wife Cotton Weaver Ireland
Mary Kelly 62 Mother Wid Piecer
James Kelly 17 Son
Joseph Kelly 15 Son
Paul Kelly 11 Son
Elzth. Kelly 7 Dau
Esther Kelly 5 Dau
(others born Manchester)
No...doesn't fit
1881: 90 Naylor Street, Manchester, Lancashire
Laurance Kelly 49 Head Hawker Ireland
Elizabeth Kelly 48 Wife Cotton Weaver Ireland
Mary Kelly 62 Mother Wid Piecer
James Kelly 17 Son
Joseph Kelly 15 Son
Paul Kelly 11 Son
Elzth. Kelly 7 Dau
Esther Kelly 5 Dau
(others born Manchester)
No...doesn't fit
Last edited by mallosa on Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
mallosa wrote:I wonder if this is him, given that he has named his first born son Lawrence
1901: 58 Style Street, Manchester
James Kelly 48 Head Print? Finishers Lab
Catherine Kelly 43 Wife
Lawrence Kelly 19 Son Print? Finishers Lab
James Kelly 15 Son
Thomas Kelly 8 Son
Joseph Kelly 6 Son
(all born Manchester)
There is a John Kelly age 47 (widower) living at No 74 , not sure if related though
James has died...
It could be either of these...
Deaths Jun 1909
KELLY James 56 Manchester 8d 170
KELLY James 56 Manchester 8d 171
1911: 4 Coulman St, Rochdale Rd Manchester
Catterine Kelly 57 Head Wid Housewife married 31 yrs - children: 6/5/2
Lawence Kelly 30 Son S Cloth Finisher
Thomas Kelly 18 Son S Moulder
Joseph Kelly 16 Son Slipper? Maker
John Rillibude (Killbride?) 21 Boarder S Gen Lab
(all born Manchester)
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
-
Jimmy
- Posts: 22696
- Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:40 am
- Primary Surname Interests: Ancestry
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Worcestershire, Staffordshire.
- Location: Kidderminster.
Re: Irish search
Ancestry,
Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915.
James Kelly.
Baptism.
Baptism Date: 22 May 1852.
Baptism Place: undalk, Louth, Ireland.
Residence Place: Shore Road.
Diocese: Armagh.
Father: Laurence Kelly.
Mother: Mary Kelly.
Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915.
James Kelly.
Baptism.
Baptism Date: 22 May 1852.
Baptism Place: undalk, Louth, Ireland.
Residence Place: Shore Road.
Diocese: Armagh.
Father: Laurence Kelly.
Mother: Mary Kelly.
-
mallosa
- Posts: 22362
- Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:59 pm
- Primary Surname Interests: Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Evans, Taylor, Brookes, Lenton, Wilson and Mallon
- Primary Geographical Research Areas: Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury, Birmingham and Ireland
- Location: Yardley, Birmingham
Re: Irish search
Baptism Place: Dundalk, Louth, Ireland.
By sheer coincidence, my hubbies Grandfather Patrick Mallon (Engineer) was born in Dundalk in 1868 as was his father also Patrick born in 1831 (Blacksmith)
If you would like to have your ancestors photo's included in our Gallery, please send me a pm.
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)
Researching: Evans, Rollason, Henley/Hendley, Brookes, Taylor (Wilson - Birmingham)