ARC TBC Levi Rose grandchildren--

[mumbles]

This Levi Rose connects to rosegarden but I have added Census and other details
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =267676447

Has three Grandchildren

1891 Census Moor Street West Bromwich Staffs.
Levi Rose Head 60 Stationary Engine Driver born Halesowen Worcs.
Ann Rose wife 53 born Halesowen Worcs.
Myria Rose dau 18
Emmanuel Rose son 15 Weighs Bobbler
Elizabeth Rose grd.dau 12 Scholar
Harry Rose grd.son 3
John Gillett son.in.law 21 Sewage Labourer born Moreton in Marsh Gloucs.
Elizabeth Gillett dau 23
Betsy Hulton visitor 30 (s) General Domestic Servant born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

1901 Census 80 Moor Street West Bromwich Staffs.
Levi Rose Head 70 Engine Driver at Factory born Halesowen Worcs.
Ann Rose wife 62 born Halesowen Worcs.
Emmanuel Rose son 24 Pig Iron Moulder
Harry Rose grd.son 13 Moulders Labourer
Daisy L. Rose grd.dau 9
Betsy Hulton sister in law 30 (s) born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

I am interested as I think Harry Rose grandchild connects to part of my maternal line

I cannot work out who parents of grandchildren are

[Jimmy]

ROSE, LEVI  EMMANUEL   HULSTON.
GRO Reference: 1876  S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 794.

[Jimmy]

There is no birth reg for Daisy L. Rose grd.dau 9,

closest is,

HOLDEN, DAISY  LILIAN   ROSE.
GRO Reference: 1891  S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 812.
 

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1891.Forename(s)
HOLDEN James. ROSE Rosanna M. West Bromwich Register Office (WBRO). Sandwell Register Office. WBRO/21/117.

[mumbles]

You Have right one Jimmy

1911 Census 17 Gaunts Yard High Street Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Betsey Hulston Head 61 (s) Chain Woman born Halesowen Worcs.
Daisey Lilian Holden great Niece 20 Puncher @ Iron Boot & Shoe Lip Worker born West Bromwich Staffs.

[mumbles]

1901 Census 87 New Street West Bromwich Staffs.
James Holden Head 28 Safe Maker
Myra Holden wife 28
Edith Holden dau 8
Gertrude Holden dau 5
James Holden son 2
George Holden son 4 mths.
All born West Bromwich Staffs.

1911 Census 56 Reform Street West Bromwich Staffs.
James Holden Head 38 Safe Maker
Myra Holden wife 38
Married 20 years . 8 children, 6 living
Edith Holden dau 18 Safety Pin Maker
Gertrude Holden dau 5
James Holden son 12 School
George Holden son 10 School
Alice Holden dau 8
Annie Holden dau 6
Edward Holden son 2
All born West Bromwich Staffs.

This looks right but the number of children living is wrong and they do not count Daisy Lillian Holden

[mumbles]

Holden Family is right one as all children born with mother surname Rose

[Northern Lass]

are you still after who Elizabeth Rose b 1879
and
Harry Rose b 1888 belong to?

if so I can move to brickwalls?
unless we can crack it.

[Jimmy]

Looks like Harry is an Henry,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1910.
ROSE Henry L. BENNETT. Edith. West Bromwich, St Andrew. Sandwell Register Office. 26/4/18.

1911. 17 Piercy Street, West Bromwich.
Ann Maria Bennet 53. Widow.
Samuel Bennet 28.
Elizabeth Bennet 25.
Ernest Bennet 12.
Harry Rose 23. Boarder. Coal Miner and Loader.
Edith Rose 22. Boarder. Married 1 year.

All born West Bromwich.

ROSE, LEVI  HENRY   -.
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 737.
 

[Jimmy]

Edith Bennett on BCC,

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=406945

Need this marriage looked up.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1910.
ROSE Henry L. BENNETT. Edith. West Bromwich, St Andrew. Sandwell Register Office. 26/4/18.

[Jimmy]

Elizabeth Rose,

Need this marriage looked up.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1898.
ROSE Elizabeth. RICHARDS. William. West Bromwich, St John. Sandwell Register Office. 24/2/225.

1901. 90 Glover Street, West Bromwich.
William Richards 23. Iron foundry.
Elizabeth Richards 22.
William A Richards 3.

RICHARDS, WILLIAM  ARTHUR   ROSE. 
GRO Reference: 1898  S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 908.

[rockyfowler]

13 May 1898
William RICHARDS 21 B 80 Moore Street Father William Richards (Dec) Iron Worker
Elizabeth ROSE 21 S 80 Moore Street Father Illeg
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; William Squires / Eliza Nichols

[Jimmy]

Thanks Rocky. Just as I thought illegitimate.

[mumbles]

Thanks Rocky and Jimmy for persisting

Edith Bennett,s sister Ann Eliza Bennett married a Mark Turton and their daughter Gladys Turton married my Uncle Henry Charles
I have only just started tracing this side of family as I did not know of them until a cousin contacted me with photos and wedding certs. proving link
Reason we did not know was that my grandmother did not approve of marriage and fell out with her son

I would assume that Harry L. Rose was illegitimate too but to which daughter ?

[mumbles]

1891 Census Moor Street West Bromwich Staffs.
Levi Rose Head 60 Stationary Engine Driver born Halesowen Worcs.
Ann Rose wife 53 born Halesowen Worcs.
Myria Rose dau 18
Emmanuel Rose son 15 Weighs Bobbler
Elizabeth Rose grd.dau 12 Scholar
Harry Rose grd.son 3
John Gillett son.in.law 21 Sewage Labourer born Moreton in Marsh Gloucs.
Elizabeth Gillett dau 23
Betsy Huslton visitor 30 (s) General Domestic Servant born Halesowen Worcs.
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

Elizabeth Gillett is Sarah A. E. Rose as she married John H. Gillett in 1889 West Bromwich

So by process of elimination Elizabeth Rose was probably dau of Hannah or Ann Eliza Rose as she was only daughter of child bearing age not covered by marriage
and Harry was probably son of Alice M. Rose
Have posted Harry marriage at St. Andrews