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ARC TBC Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:38 am
by Mabel
Picked up a birth certificate for Ann Parkes born 25th August 1845 mother Mary Parkes residence Garratts Lane. No father named. Tried to fit it in with Ann and Mary Rose ne Parkes Siviters Lane 1851 census living with Abraham Parkes and family. Garratts Lane seems too far away. Though the information might be useful to someone and fit in with some other Ann and Mary Parkes unmarried living in Garratts Lane 1845 ish. Ann Rose is on connections spelt Anne

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:38 pm
by grangers14
I wonder if this is Ann Parkes??
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402332

On BCC we also have her having a son, Thomas. That surely is wrong as she would have only been 11 when she had him??

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:00 pm
by Jimmy
I would think Mary rose, age 24 is Ann's mother.

Mary Ann Rose. Grandaur. 11 Mo b. Rowley Regis.

ROSE, MARY ANN PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 327.

1851 - Siviters Lane, Rowley Regis
Abraham Parkes Head 52 Labourer b. Rowley Regis
Ann Parkes Wife 50 Labourer’s Wife b. Rowley Regis
James Parkes Son 19 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Hannah Parkes Daur 16 Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Parkes Daur 13 b. Rowley Regis
Sarah Willetts Daur 27 Marr. Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Martha Willetts Grandaur 9 b. Rowley Regis
Hannah Willetts Grandaur 7 b. Rowley Regis
Edward Willetts Grandson 4 b. Rowley Regis
Mary Rose Daur 24 Marr. Nailor b. Rowley Regis
Ann Rose Grandaur 5 b. Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Rose Grandaur 11 Mo b. Rowley Regis

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:21 pm
by Mabel
Martha Willets was born before her mother's marriage to Edward Willetts so took a guess maybe Ann was born before her mother's marriage to Joseph Rose. Joseph and Edward both miners. Hate loose ends. Any Mary or Ann Parkes living in Garratts lane. 1841 or 51,61.

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:28 pm
by grangers14
?? lost now Mabel?
Jimmy it is Ann Parkes I am questioning about having a son, Thomas, at 11? http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402332

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:53 pm
by Jimmy
It just says lodger.

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:06 pm
by grangers14
But he is still there later census and when married no father. His birth as Old hill. Is that not near Garratts lane. I know women can have children early... Just doesn't add up to me?

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:12 pm
by Jimmy
Garratts lane is In Oldhill.

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:17 pm
by grangers14
Thank you :) Same area then. Seems like we need to find Thomas's birth. At the moment I do not believe he is Anns son...

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:20 pm
by Jimmy
It looks like he could be the son of Hannah, Old Hill is part of Rowley Regis

1861. Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 44. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 27. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 5. Grand son.

PARKES, THOMAS PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:41 pm
by Jimmy
ROSE, ANN -
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 322.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402379

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:43 pm
by Jimmy
PARKES, ANN -
GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 281
PARKES, ANN - Order
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 327
PARKES, ANN PARKES Order
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 318

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:10 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:ROSE, MARY ANN PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 327.


Worcestershire.
Place (link for place information) Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 22.
Marriage date 28 Mar 1847.
Groom forename Joseph
Groom surname RHODES. Should this be Rose.
Groom condition widower.
Groom abode Dudley.
Groom occupation Miner.
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname PARKES.
Bride age of full age.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Dudley.
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname RHODES.
Groom father occupation Fitter Up.
Bride father forename Abraham
Bride father surname PARKES.
Bride father occupation Nailer
Witness Joseph PARKES.
Witness Elizabeth PARKES.
Register note By Banns-Groom Bride & witnesses marked X.

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:41 am
by Northern Lass
So can we connect up this

Ann Rose b abt 1845
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=402379

to this one
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =965896067

and can we add in the birth certif Mabel/suki has ...or is it too big a leap?

Re: Ann Parkes 1845 Garratts Lane

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:05 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:It looks like he could be the son of Hannah, Old Hill is part of Rowley Regis

1861. Rowley Regis.
Ann Parkes 44. Unmarried.
Hannah Parkes 27. Unmarried.
Thomas Parkes 5. Grand son.

PARKES, THOMAS PARKES.
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.


Staffordshire.
Place (link for place information) Rowley Regis.
Church name St Giles.
Register type Unspecified.
Baptism date 24 Nov 1833.
Person forename Hannah
Person sex F.
Person abode Old Hill.
Mother forename Ann
Mother surname PARKES.
Register note Base born.