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Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:34 pm
by kdw
Hi
Need help with another
Have marriage cert for Frederick Edward Cutler and Amy Georgina Cox(Daughter of Thomas Cox and Jane Ellen Hughes). On cert it states father as James Cutler but cant read occ. Frederick is age 23 so born about 1862 found him on 71 census with father 81 census i dont understand and after marriage with Amy on 91 census listed as Cutten, Cutter on 1901.
1871 Kings Street Rowley Regis
James Cutler age 35 Mar. Ironforger born Rowley
Anne M Cutler age 11 Born Rowley
Edith Cutler age 6 Born Rowley
Frederick E Cutler age 9 Born Rowley
Martha Dunn age 28 Servant born Pensnett.
1881 High St Grocers Shop Kingswinford
James Cutler age 41 Born Brockmoor Forge staffordshire
Matilia Cutler age 45 wife Born Wordsley
Eli Billingham age 70 Lodger
Frederick Cutler age 17 Lodger son
Joseph Cutler age 16 Lodger son
Edith Cutler age 8 Lodger Daughter
Can anyone find who James was married to?
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:17 pm
by Northern Lass
On 1861 he is at Spinners end with a Louisa
but something is odd with that 1881 is that the correct census for him?
and someone on ances trees has him as James " a twin" cutler
1859
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER James AUSTIN Louisa Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/002/322
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:29 pm
by Jimmy
Births Dec 1861.
CUTLER Frederick Edward, Dudley. 6c. 19.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:35 pm
by Jimmy
Extracted.
JAMES CUTTLER.
ELIZABETH MATILDA HILL.
Marriage, 08 MAR 1874, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:36 pm
by Northern Lass
wonder if this one died before 1871 census
1871
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
CUTLER Louisa Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/27/264
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:45 pm
by Jimmy
Marriages Mar 1859.
Austin Frances Sophia. Dudley 6c 42.
Austin Louisa. Dudley 6c 42.
Cutler James. Dudley 6c 42.
Downing Thomas. Dudley 6c 42.
West Midlands Marriage 1859.
CUTLER James, AUSTIN Louisa, Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill. Dudley Register Office. 203/002/322.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:47 pm
by Jimmy
Deaths Mar 1871.
Cutler Louisa, 35, Dudley, 6c. 7.
1871 census was on 2nd April.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:55 pm
by Jimmy
kdw wrote:Hi
Need help with another
Have marriage cert for Frederick Edward Cutler and Amy Georgina Cox(Daughter of Thomas Cox and Jane Ellen Hughes). On cert it states father as James Cutler but cant read occ. Frederick is age 23 so born about 1862 found him on 71 census with father 81 census i dont understand and after marriage with Amy on 91 census listed as Cutten, Cutter on 1901.
1871 Kings Street Rowley Regis
James Cutler age 35 Mar. Ironforger born Rowley
Anne M Cutler age 11 Born Rowley
Edith Cutler age 6 Born Rowley
Frederick E Cutler age 9 Born Rowley
Martha Dunn age 28 Servant born Pensnett.
1881 High St Grocers Shop Kingswinford
James Cutler age 41 Born Brockmoor Forge staffordshire
Matilia Cutler age 45 wife Born Wordsley
Eli Billingham age 70 Lodger
Frederick Cutler age 17 Lodger son
Joseph Cutler age 16 Lodger son
Edith Cutler age 8 Lodger Daughter
Can anyone find who James was married to?
There seems to be a difference in these two Ediths. There isn't a death for one.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:58 pm
by Jimmy
This is odd.
Extracted.
FREDERICK CUTLER.
Christening, 19 NOV 1862, All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
Parents:
FREDERICK CUTLER.
MATILDA.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:11 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:This is odd.
Extracted.
FREDERICK CUTLER.
Christening, 19 NOV 1862, All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford
Parents:
FREDERICK CUTLER.
MATILDA.
This is a different family, Living in Sedgley in 1881.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:27 pm
by Northern Lass
I dont think that 1881 is the correct James what does anyone else think.
Louisa must die prior to 1871 then James may remarry and suppose the only way of checking who he marries is find him on census
but I cant see him in 1881 can anyone else
must be mistrans
or maybe find him on later census or a death or any of the kids
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:53 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:Deaths Mar 1871.
Cutler Louisa, 35, Dudley, 6c. 7.
1871 census was on 2nd April.
This looks like Louisa's death reg.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:14 pm
by Jimmy
I think that the 1881 is not right.
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:57 am
by kdw
1891 theres a James Cutler with wife Janetta daughter Edith age 17 and Eli Billingham age 81 living in Quarry Bank, none of this makes sense to me
Re: Frederick Cutler
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:05 am
by Northern Lass
It is odd that 1881 so perhaps James cutler died too and kids farmed out
I think that other james is a different one this maybe the marriage and that could be checked to see father and if same as Louisa marriage
1871
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CUTLER James BILLINGHAM Phebe J Smethwick, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 1/2/91