cid wrote:Hi, I have just the forum after browsing a few days ago and seeing a post regarding Shelah Garratt b. 1806 approx, (for a member Chance family - Keith). He is my G.G.G. Grandfather. I am descended from his son Samuel who married Maria Summers at St Johns Church, Dudley, West Mids on 21st April 1862. One of their daughters Mary Hannah (who used the name Hannah on her marriage certificate) married Samuel Russon on 23rd December 1888. One of their sons, Harry, was my grandfather. I have had no luck finding Maria Summers on the FREE BDM. From the marriage certificate it looks like her father was named Thomas. Has any one any ideas please?
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this looks like the selah garratt on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =941638360
samuel married maria summers looks like his sister phoebe married maria brother richard
poss marr
SUMMERS Richard GARRATT Phoebe 1866 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/004/282
1881
Richard SUMMERS 31 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Pheobe SUMMERS 34 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas SUMMERS 12 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Charles SUMMERS 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Mary SUMMERS 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Richard SUMMERS 2 Netherton, Worcester,
Shelah SUMMERS 1 m Netherton, Worcester,
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =941638360
samuel married maria summers looks like his sister phoebe married maria brother richard
poss marr
SUMMERS Richard GARRATT Phoebe 1866 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/004/282
1881
Richard SUMMERS 31 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Pheobe SUMMERS 34 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas SUMMERS 12 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Charles SUMMERS 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Mary SUMMERS 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Richard SUMMERS 2 Netherton, Worcester,
Shelah SUMMERS 1 m Netherton, Worcester,
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here maria and richard marriage
SUMMERS Maria GARRAT Samuel 1862 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/2
is maria a mary here ?
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
Samuel GARRATT 42 Netherton, Worcester, Blast Furnaceman (I)
Mary GARRATT 41 Netherton, Worcester,
Elizabeth GARRATT 20 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Samuel GARRATT 18 Netherton, Worcester, General Labourer
Fanny GARRATT 14 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Mary GARRATT 11 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Jane GARRATT 9 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Eliza GARRATT 5 Netherton, Worcester,
Solomon GARRATT 1 Netherton, Worcester,
SUMMERS Maria GARRAT Samuel 1862 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/2
is maria a mary here ?
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
Samuel GARRATT 42 Netherton, Worcester, Blast Furnaceman (I)
Mary GARRATT 41 Netherton, Worcester,
Elizabeth GARRATT 20 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Samuel GARRATT 18 Netherton, Worcester, General Labourer
Fanny GARRATT 14 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Mary GARRATT 11 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Jane GARRATT 9 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Eliza GARRATT 5 Netherton, Worcester,
Solomon GARRATT 1 Netherton, Worcester,
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two doors up
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
Mark GARRATT 70 Netherton, Worcester, Pauper
Elizabeth GARRATT 65 Netherton, Worcester,
Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger 40 Netherton, Worcester, General Labourer
next door to them
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
John SUMMERS 41 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Sarah SUMMERS 40 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas S. SUMMERS 18 Netherton, Worcester, Furnas Labourer (Fac)
John SUMMERS 16 Netherton, Worcester, Furnas Labourer (Fac)
Maryann SUMMERS 15 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah SUMMERS 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Eliza SUMMERS 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Edward SUMMERS 2 Netherton, Worcester,
poss marriage
SUMMERS John ROUND Sarah 1864 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/108
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
Mark GARRATT 70 Netherton, Worcester, Pauper
Elizabeth GARRATT 65 Netherton, Worcester,
Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger 40 Netherton, Worcester, General Labourer
next door to them
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
John SUMMERS 41 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Sarah SUMMERS 40 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas S. SUMMERS 18 Netherton, Worcester, Furnas Labourer (Fac)
John SUMMERS 16 Netherton, Worcester, Furnas Labourer (Fac)
Maryann SUMMERS 15 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah SUMMERS 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Eliza SUMMERS 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Edward SUMMERS 2 Netherton, Worcester,
poss marriage
SUMMERS John ROUND Sarah 1864 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/108
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poss marriage
MARK GARRATT
ELIZABETH STEVENS
Marriage: 11 APR 1836 Kingswinford, Stafford,
mark garrett christening
MARK GARROTT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: SHELAH GARROTT
Mother: ELIZTH.
poss marr
SHELAH GARRATT
ELIZABETH BARNETT
Marriage: 19 MAY 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
this is him on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =820019793
cousin to shelah c 1806
mark siblings
JOHN GARRATT
Christening: 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
MARK GARROTT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
LUKE GARRATT
Christening: 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
WILLM. GARRATT
Christening: 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
HANNAH GARRATT
Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
MARK GARRATT
ELIZABETH STEVENS
Marriage: 11 APR 1836 Kingswinford, Stafford,
mark garrett christening
MARK GARROTT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: SHELAH GARROTT
Mother: ELIZTH.
poss marr
SHELAH GARRATT
ELIZABETH BARNETT
Marriage: 19 MAY 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
this is him on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =820019793
cousin to shelah c 1806
mark siblings
JOHN GARRATT
Christening: 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
MARK GARROTT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
LUKE GARRATT
Christening: 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
WILLM. GARRATT
Christening: 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
HANNAH GARRATT
Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
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Re: Shelah Garrett - Cid post from intro
Peterd do you fancy adding any of this save wasting the info
if not we can archive
if not we can archive
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added some of the above
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =315181542
can we find any thing on these above
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =315181542
peterd wrote:two doors up
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
Mark GARRATT 70 Netherton, Worcester, Pauper
Elizabeth GARRATT 65 Netherton, Worcester,
Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger 40 Netherton, Worcester, General Labourer
next door to them
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
John SUMMERS 41 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Sarah SUMMERS 40 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas S. SUMMERS 18 Netherton, Worcester, Furnas Labourer (Fac)
John SUMMERS 16 Netherton, Worcester, Furnas Labourer (Fac)
Maryann SUMMERS 15 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah SUMMERS 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Eliza SUMMERS 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Edward SUMMERS 2 Netherton, Worcester,
poss marriage
SUMMERS John ROUND Sarah 1864 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/108
can we find any thing on these above
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1841
Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 25 - Furnanceman
Elizabeth Garratt 20
Samuel Garratt 3
Mark Garratt 3 Mo
all b in c
1851
70
Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 40 - Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 33
Mary Ann Garratt 15
Samuel Garratt 12
Mark Garratt 10
Fanny Garratt 7
William Garratt 4
Shale Garratt 2
all b Netherton
1861
129
Croft or Cross Netherton Hill
Mark Garratt 50 - Labourer
Betsey Garratt 43
Fanny Garratt 17
William Garratt 14 - Coalminer
Shelah Garratt 12 - Cripple
Elizabeth Garratt 9 - Nailor
Hannah Garratt 6
Benjamin Garratt 4
all b Netherton
1871
2
Hurleys Fold, Dudley
Mark Garratt 59 - Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 54 - Nailor
Elizabeth Garratt 18 - Nailor
Hannah Garratt 17 - Nailor
Benjamin Garratt - 14 - Furnanceman
all b Netherton
1891
255
Hurleys Fold, Dudley
Hannah Snead 38 - Widow - Nailmaker
James Snead 16 - Coalminer - b Shadforth Durham
Angelinia Snead 15 - Nailmaker
Mary Snead 13 - Domestic servant
Rebecca Snead 11
Jerry Snead 9
Elizabeth Snead 3
Mark Garratt 80 - Father - Widow - Labourer general
others b Netherton
next door
254
John Summers 51 - Off Work - Asterby Hereford
Sarah Summers 50 - Nailmaker
Sarah Summers 18 - Nailmaker
Edward Summers 12
Alice Summers 9
Eliza Summers 16 - Nailmaker
others b Netherton
Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 25 - Furnanceman
Elizabeth Garratt 20
Samuel Garratt 3
Mark Garratt 3 Mo
all b in c
1851
70
Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 40 - Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 33
Mary Ann Garratt 15
Samuel Garratt 12
Mark Garratt 10
Fanny Garratt 7
William Garratt 4
Shale Garratt 2
all b Netherton
1861
129
Croft or Cross Netherton Hill
Mark Garratt 50 - Labourer
Betsey Garratt 43
Fanny Garratt 17
William Garratt 14 - Coalminer
Shelah Garratt 12 - Cripple
Elizabeth Garratt 9 - Nailor
Hannah Garratt 6
Benjamin Garratt 4
all b Netherton
1871
2
Hurleys Fold, Dudley
Mark Garratt 59 - Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 54 - Nailor
Elizabeth Garratt 18 - Nailor
Hannah Garratt 17 - Nailor
Benjamin Garratt - 14 - Furnanceman
all b Netherton
1881 Hurley Fold Dudley, Worcester
Mark GARRATT 70 Netherton, Worcester, Pauper
Elizabeth GARRATT 65 Netherton, Worcester,
Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger 40 Netherton, Worcester, General Labourer
1891
255
Hurleys Fold, Dudley
Hannah Snead 38 - Widow - Nailmaker
James Snead 16 - Coalminer - b Shadforth Durham
Angelinia Snead 15 - Nailmaker
Mary Snead 13 - Domestic servant
Rebecca Snead 11
Jerry Snead 9
Elizabeth Snead 3
Mark Garratt 80 - Father - Widow - Labourer general
others b Netherton
next door
254
John Summers 51 - Off Work - Asterby Hereford
Sarah Summers 50 - Nailmaker
Sarah Summers 18 - Nailmaker
Edward Summers 12
Alice Summers 9
Eliza Summers 16 - Nailmaker
others b Netherton
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added mark garratt and census on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =845608780
1841 Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 25 - Furnanceman
Elizabeth Garratt 20
Samuel Garratt 3
Mark Garratt 3 Mo
all b in c
1851 Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 40 - Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 33
Mary Ann Garratt 15
Samuel Garratt 12
Mark Garratt 10
Fanny Garratt 7
William Garratt 4
Shale Garratt 2
antyone find where mary ann garratt was in 1841 mothers maiden name poss stevens. cheers
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =845608780
1841 Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 25 - Furnanceman
Elizabeth Garratt 20
Samuel Garratt 3
Mark Garratt 3 Mo
all b in c
1851 Upper Netherton
Mark Garratt 40 - Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 33
Mary Ann Garratt 15
Samuel Garratt 12
Mark Garratt 10
Fanny Garratt 7
William Garratt 4
Shale Garratt 2
antyone find where mary ann garratt was in 1841 mothers maiden name poss stevens. cheers
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Re: Shelah Garrett - Cid post from intro
Living with grandparents
1841
Mushroom Green, Dudley
Samuel Stevens 50 - Nail m
Ann Stevens 50
Elijah Stevens 25 - Nail m
Mary Garratt 3
all b in c
Extracted
ELIZABETH STEVENS
Christening: 15 SEP 1817 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL STEVENS
Mother: ANN
1841
Mushroom Green, Dudley
Samuel Stevens 50 - Nail m
Ann Stevens 50
Elijah Stevens 25 - Nail m
Mary Garratt 3
all b in c
Extracted
ELIZABETH STEVENS
Christening: 15 SEP 1817 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL STEVENS
Mother: ANN
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on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =252079140
1891
John Summers 51 - Off Work - Asterby Hereford
Sarah Summers 50 - Nailmaker
Sarah Summers 18 - Nailmaker
Edward Summers 12
Alice Summers 9
Eliza Summers 16 - Nailmaker
others b Netherton
any chance of finding these in 1841 t0 1871 please
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =252079140
1891
John Summers 51 - Off Work - Asterby Hereford
Sarah Summers 50 - Nailmaker
Sarah Summers 18 - Nailmaker
Edward Summers 12
Alice Summers 9
Eliza Summers 16 - Nailmaker
others b Netherton
any chance of finding these in 1841 t0 1871 please
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Re: Shelah Garrett - Cid post from intro
Pete
I think these are 2 lots of Summers, this one born Netherton the other Hereford, I'll search for both.
Don't see him, a lookup on the following marriage would help.
1871
11
Hurleys Fold, Dudley
Ann Renna 62 (def Round) - Head - Widow
John Summers 30 - Lodger - Coalminer
Sarah Summers 28 - Nailor
Thomas Summers 8
John Summers 6
Mary Ann Summers 5
Sarah Summers 3 months
Samuel Ronner 32 (def Round) - Coalminer
Eliza Ronner 34 - Nailor - b Kelsy Green, Salop
Samuel Ronner 1
others b Netherton
I think these are 2 lots of Summers, this one born Netherton the other Hereford, I'll search for both.
Don't see him, a lookup on the following marriage would help.
SUMMERS John ROUND Sarah 1864 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill West Midlands Dudley Register Office 203/003/108
1871
11
Hurleys Fold, Dudley
Ann Renna 62 (def Round) - Head - Widow
John Summers 30 - Lodger - Coalminer
Sarah Summers 28 - Nailor
Thomas Summers 8
John Summers 6
Mary Ann Summers 5
Sarah Summers 3 months
Samuel Ronner 32 (def Round) - Coalminer
Eliza Ronner 34 - Nailor - b Kelsy Green, Salop
Samuel Ronner 1
others b Netherton
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1841
Netherton Hill, Dudley
John Round 35 - Lab
Ann Round 30
Mary Round 12 - Nailor
Edward Round 7
Hannah Round 5
Lydia Round 3
Samuel Round 9 Mo
all b in c
same page as Shelah and Harriet
1851
18
Netherton Hill, Dudley
Ann Round 42 - Widow - Nailor
Mary Round 21 - Nailor - b Dudley
Edward Round 16 - Miner
Samuel Round 9
Sarah Round 7
Nancy Round 5
others b Netherton
1861
98
Netherton Hills, Dudley
Ann Round 54 - Widow - b Dudley
Samuel Round 21 - Miner
Sarah Round 18 - Nailor
Ann Round 15 - Nailor
others b Netherton
Shelah & Hannah Garratt living at 93
Netherton Hill, Dudley
John Round 35 - Lab
Ann Round 30
Mary Round 12 - Nailor
Edward Round 7
Hannah Round 5
Lydia Round 3
Samuel Round 9 Mo
all b in c
same page as Shelah and Harriet
1851
18
Netherton Hill, Dudley
Ann Round 42 - Widow - Nailor
Mary Round 21 - Nailor - b Dudley
Edward Round 16 - Miner
Samuel Round 9
Sarah Round 7
Nancy Round 5
others b Netherton
1861
98
Netherton Hills, Dudley
Ann Round 54 - Widow - b Dudley
Samuel Round 21 - Miner
Sarah Round 18 - Nailor
Ann Round 15 - Nailor
others b Netherton
Shelah & Hannah Garratt living at 93
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peterd wrote:this looks like the selah garratt on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =941638360
samuel married maria summers looks like his sister phoebe married maria brother richard
poss marr
SUMMERS Richard GARRATT Phoebe 1866 Dudley, St Edmund West Midlands Dudley Register Office 201/004/282
1881
Richard SUMMERS 31 Netherton, Worcester, Coal Miner
Pheobe SUMMERS 34 Netherton, Worcester,
Thomas SUMMERS 12 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Charles SUMMERS 8 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Mary SUMMERS 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Richard SUMMERS 2 Netherton, Worcester,
Shelah SUMMERS 1 m Netherton, Worcester,
Poss
1851
39
Netherton Hill, Dudley
Thomas Summers 50 - Labourer - b Bayton?
Ann Summers 40 - b Rock
William Summers 20 - Miner - b Stourport
Elizabeth Summers 14 - Nailor - b Hasbry
John Summers 10 - b Chibery
Maria Summers 6 - b Pensut?
Richard Summers 4 - b Netherton
1861
114
Netherton Hill, Dudley
Thomas Somers 56 - Widow - Waggoner - b Whitby Worcs
William Somers 29 - Soldier on furlough - b Stourport
Richard Somers 12 - Coalminer - b Netherton
William Portman 24 - son in law - Stone miner - b Netherton
Elizabeth Portman 24 - Nailor - b Dudley
William Portman 20 Mo - grandson - b Netherton
1871
58 Suns? Lane, Dudley
Hannah Garratt 50 - Widow - Nailor
Elizabeth Garratt 19 - Nailor
Richard Summers 23 - Boarder - Coalminer
Phoebe Summers 24 - Nailor
Thomas Summers 2
William Summers 9 months
John Garratt 68 - Lodger - Nailor
all b Netherton
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i wait until the 3 marr look up come back befor adding the rest
added richard census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =568861692
added richard census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =568861692
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