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Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Ok we have Ellen Fowkes here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =129502485

on marriage she puts father Albert Fowkes

who may be this one.....that is unless it is a made up name
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =565915846


now it gets complicated and I need you lot to sort it as I have to get off this soon!

Somehow....Ellen Fowkes is the Grand dau of Wm Stringer and Mary Ann Stringer (nee Yarnold)
here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =733155012

she is g.dau on 1901 and 1911
1911 living 32 Tibbetts Gardens where she dies in 1918

So how is she G.dau to Wm Stringer and Mary Ann.

There is a marriage for Albert Fowkes and Rosannah Yarnol ???

There is also a marriage for an Amelia Fowkes and Joseph Stringer???

So my question is is Ellen Fowkes g.dau to Wm Stringer and Mary Ann cos their son or dau is mother or father...if so is it son or dau
or
is Albert Fowkes father and Wm and mary Stringers dau is his "wife" if so where is the marriage?
or does the name Yarnol connect to Yarnold and Mary Ann stringer nee Yarnold has taken in Ellen from a rellie

Help??? :shock:
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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I think I have it

the marriage for Albert Fowkes shows wife Rosannah Yarnal having father William Yarnal
however......

Mary Ann Yarnold has a sister Rosannah b 1867...there is only one born that year

father is Isaac Yarnold
here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =802200711

so I think that Mary Ann Yarnold has sister Rosanna...or dau Rosanna

and william is put down as Yarnol.............but should maybe say Wm Stringer not Wm yarnal

is there a bapt for rosannah Yarnol /Yarnold

I think she is dau of Mary ann Yarnold.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Ok I have connected Ellen Fowkes as dau of Albert Fowkes and Rosannah Yarnold/Yarnal

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =409610976

really needs the birth certif sending for.

can anyone see a bapt pls..

the 1901 could have said wifes dau....I wasnt sure.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Can't see a baptism,

1901 census from BCC,

1901.
Joseph Stringer head m 27 chainmaker b Cradley.
Amelia Stringer wife 27 b Quarry Bank.
Maria Fowkes Step dau 3 b Brierley Hill.
John J? Stringer 4 mths son b Cradley Heath .

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1900.
STRINGER Joseph. FOWKES Amelia. Quarry Bank, Christ Church. Dudley Register Office. 016/003/253.

1891. 39 Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley Regis.
William Stringer 46. Chain maker.
Mary Ann Stringer 46.
Samuel Stringer 21.
Joseph Stringer 17. Chain maker.
Mary Ann Stringer 11.
Caroline Stringer 8.
Edward Stringer 2.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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1891. Mill St, Cradley.
Joseph Fowkes 55. Chain maker.
Emma Fowkes 54.
Benjamin Fowkes 21.
Amelia Fowkes 17.
Joseph Fowkes 15.
Martha Fowkes 13.
Elizabeth Fowkes 11.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1860.
FOWKES Joseph. BATE Emma. Cradley, St Peter. Dudley Register Office. 013/001/143.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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1881. 24 High Town, Cradley.
Joseph Folkes 42. Chain Striker.
Emma Folkes 41.
Jane Folkes 18.
Eliza Folkes 16.
William Folkes 14.
Benjamin Folkes 12.
Thomas Folkes 10.
Mealey Folkes 8.
Joseph Folkes 6.
Martha Folkes 3.
Elizabeth Folkes 1.

All born Cradley.

1871. High Town, Cradley.
Joseph Fowkes 33. Chain Striker. Birmingham.
Emma Fowkes 30.
Richard Fowkes 74.
Richard Fowkes 11.
Jane Fowkes 9.
Eliza Fowkes 6.
William Fowkes 4.
Benjamin Fowkes 6 Weeks.
Daniel Grove 69. Boarder.
Eliza Grove 65. Boarder.

Others born born Cradley.

1861. Rock Row, Cradley.
Joseph Fowkes 23. Chain maker. Birmingham.
Emma Fowkes 21. Cradley.
Richard Bate 1. Cradley.
Hannah Fawknall 21. Lodger. Unmarried. Dudley.
Matilda Fawknall 1. Dau.
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1851. High Town, Cradley.
Eliza Bate 35. Unmarried. Nailer.
Emma Bate 11.
William Bate 5.
Daniel Grove 45. Lodger. Unmarried. Chain maker.

All born Cradley.

1841. High Town, Cradley.
Samuel Bate 60. Nailer.
Ann Bate 60.
Eliza Bate 25.
Joseph Bate 30.
Harriot Bate 25.
Samuel Bate 8.
George Bate 5.
Henry Bate 5.
Joseph Bate 3.
Sarah Bate 1.
Emma Bate 1.

Emma Bate on BCC,

Baptism,
24.1473.
WOR.
Halesowen St Johns. 24. 185. 1473.
19 Apr 1840.
Emma F. Dau of Eliza BATE. Cradley. nailer.

Emma Bate on BCC,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=370721
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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I think Daniel Grove is Emma Bate's father.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Thanks Jimmy

Can you do me a favour and have a look at Rosannah Yarnold that I have added as marrying Albert Fowkes
and have put her as mother of Ellen Fowkes....

Rosannah Yarnold is I think dau to Mary Ann Yarnold that marries Wm Stringer

could you have a look at 1901 pls and 1911 census of Wm Stringer and see what you think on 1901 census it says for Elen fowkes

I think it might say Wifes g.dau...on 1901

I am tempted to send for Rosannahs birth certif

although on census she is down as dau of Isaac Yarnold I think she is dau of mary ann
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Ellen Fowkes is grand dau in the 1901 and 1911 census's.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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You could be right Jan that Rosannah is Mary Yarnold dau and not William Stringer.

Births Mar 1867.
Yarnold Rosannah. Dudley. 6c. 14.


born before the marriage,

29 May 1867 St Peter Cradley
William Stringer 21 bach chainmaker Lyde Green Samuel Stringer chainmaker.
Mary Ann Yarnold 18 spinster chainmaker Lyde Green Isaac Yarnold chainmaker.
banns.
X both.
Wit- X George Stringer / X Betsy Attwood???.

1871. Cradley Road, Rowley Regis.
Isaac Yarnell 58. Chain maker.
Eliza Yarnell 53.
Ruth Yarnell 17. Dau.
Alfred Yarnell 15. Son.
Roseanna Yarnell 4. Dau. should that be grand dau.
Amy Yarnell 1 Month. Dau.

All born Rowley Regis.

Can't see Rosy in 1881, can't see William Stringer in 1871 or 1881.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Northern Lass wrote:Ok we have Ellen Fowkes here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =860295805


NL the link above takes me to Your Rose family.
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I wonder if this could be the marriage for Isaac Yarnold and Eliza unknown.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1838.
YEARNELL * Isaac. HEATH Eliza. Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office. 003/001/169.


1851 Scholding Green, Rowley.

Isaac Yarnall 35 - Chainmaker - b Chaddesley Corbett.
Eliza Yarnall 32 - Tracemaker.
Catherine Yarnall 11 - Tracemaker - b Rowley.
James Yarnall 9 - Tracemaker.
Rebecca Yarnall 7 - Tracemaker.
Joseph Yarnall 5.
Mary Ann Yarnall 3 - b Rowley.
Isaac Yarnall 1 - b Rowley.
others b Dudley.


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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Ok just going thru this


Jimmy or anyone can you see Rosanna Yarnol/Yarnold in 1881 pls

and

William Stringer and family in 1881
1891. 39 Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley Regis.
William Stringer 46. Chain maker.
Mary Ann Stringer 46.
Samuel Stringer 21.
Joseph Stringer 17. Chain maker.
Mary Ann Stringer 11.
Caroline Stringer 8.
Edward Stringer 2.
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Re: Ellen Fowkes b 1892

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Try this one, not sure about birth place Cosley, could it be Cradley.

1881. High Street, Kingswinford.
William Stringer 30. Chain maker. Cosley.
Mary Ann Stringer 29. Chain maker. Cosley.
Sarann Stringer 14. Cosley.
Samuel Stringer 10. Quarry Bank.
Joseph Stringer 7. Quarry Bank.
Mary Stringer 2. Quarry Bank.
Catherine Stringer . 3months. Quarry Bank.
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