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*ARC TBC*Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis-Jo adding to Bcc
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:55 pm
by shaunb81
Hi,
Now that my earlier query about Ellen Knight seems to have been resolved, and thank you very much to all that helped as it's genuinely solved a family mystery, I was hoping someone could help with Joseph Bagley. He's on the BCC site and I have tracked him through the various census records but I can't find a death record? He seems to have died between the 1901 and 1911 census. I was also hoping someone could give me some advice on how I go beyond Joseph Bagley as I've used the earliest census I can find to go back to Joseph, but how would I find his father and where he came from? Do I need to look at parish records? I'm not sure of the next step in tracing my family back past the early 1800's.
Thanks
Shaun
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:05 pm
by rockyfowler
First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name BAGLEY
Birth year 1827
Age 74
Death quarter 4
Death year 1901
District DUDLEY
County Staffordshire
Volume 6C
Page 5
Burial
8 Nov 1901 St Luke Reddal Hill
Joseph BAGLEY ,New Town Lane ,aged 78years
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:23 pm
by shaunb81
I'm not sure this is the same Joseph as mine was 77 in the 1901 census and still alive, he was born 1823 or 1824 according to the info I have from various sites.
Why does the age at death differ from 74 to 78 in the info you have?? The 78 year old could well be him!
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:39 pm
by peterd
this him matches burial and address
1901; 7 new town lane, Cradley Heath, Staffordshire,
Joseph Bagley 77 wid chainmaker
George Bagley 41 mar chainmaker
Eliza Bagley 36 d in law chainmaker
George Bagley 9 gson
Wilfred Bagley 4 gson
Wesley Bagley 1 gson
Mary Bagley 19 gdaug chainmaker
all born cradley heath
Burial
8 Nov 1901 St Luke Reddal Hill
Joseph BAGLEY ,New Town Lane ,aged 78years
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:41 pm
by shaunb81
Yes that's him
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:45 pm
by peterd
checked the index 8 faded slightly this is him
Joseph Bagley
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 5
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:00 pm
by shaunb81
Brilliant thank you!
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:44 am
by rockyfowler
Its an error on trancription always best to check original entry if poss
First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name BAGLEY
Age 78Death quarter 4
Death year 1901
District DUDLEY
County Staffordshire
Volume 6C
Page 5
This is this Joseph Bagley on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=370642
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:02 am
by Northern Lass
I will go thru this and add what I can to Bcc
is it completed?
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis--NL adding to Bcc
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:36 pm
by shaunb81
Could anyone recommend the best way to find out who Joseph's father was? The census only seems to go back to 1841 and he seems to have left home by then. I've tried searching for his marriage to Elizabeth Batty but can't find any details? I'm struggling to go back further than Joseph, how do you go further back than the last census?
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis--NL adding to Bcc
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:23 pm
by grangers14
This is possibly his marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1866
BAGLEY Joseph WESTWOOD Elizabeth Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/002/192
You would either need this looking up or order the marriage cert. That should give fathers name.
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis--NL adding to Bcc
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:44 pm
by grangers14
Possible first marriage??
9th September 1844. St Giles, Rowley Regis
Joseph Bagley, FA, B, New Town, Chain Maker, George Bagley, Nailer
Ann Newey, 20, S, Haden Cross, Thomas Newey, Shoe Maker
Witnesess, Hezekiah Woodhall, George Hadley
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis--NL adding to Bcc
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:17 pm
by grangers14
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis--NL adding to Bcc
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:23 pm
by shaunb81
I thought he married Elizabeth Batty? I got that from BCC, haven't researched it yet.
Re: Joseph Bagley 1823/24 Rowley Regis--NL adding to Bcc
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:15 pm
by rockyfowler
23 Apr 1866 Holy Trinity Amblecote
Joseph BAGLEY 42 W Chain Maker Amblecote Father George Bagley Chain Maker
Elizabeth WESTWOOD 40 W Amblecote Father John Parkes Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Edward Berresford X / Maria Berresford X