*Arch * Spittle/Garratt/Weston/Connection

[mumbles]

I have made a connection between Martha Garratt b.1875 and Samuel Weston and traced Martha's Family back to Spittle Family of Netherton:-
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... onnections
I have inserted Census and marriage details for this thread but I now want to trace Parents of George Spittle b.1808 who married Elizabeth Perry.
Another member believes that father of George was a Moses Spittle probably because Moses and other Spittles Tobias,James, George , Zachariah are on same 1841 Census area (Netherton Hill) as George Spittle

[peterd]

this is submitted

GEORGE SPITTLE
Father: TOBIAS SPITTLE


Spouse: ELIZABETH PERRY
Father: JAMES PERRY
Marriage: 20 JUL 1840 Kingswinford, Stafford,


so a marriage look up or cert would give you george father if that marriage date is correct ?

[peterd]

tobias did have a son george


GEORGE SPITTLE
Christening: 26 JUL 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


Father: TOBIAS SPITTLE
Mother: NANCY


siblings

ELIZA SPITTLE
Christening: 26 FEB 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

[peterd]

marriage

TOBIAS SPITTLE
NANCY BOURN
Marriage: 24 AUG 1806 Halesowen, Worcester,

[mumbles]

Thanks PeterD,
That all ties in with my idea and ties up with a tree on Ancestry but they have George Spittle marrying an Elizabeth Walters in 1834 which I know is wrong. Tobias looks the right line also as Wife as Nancy Bourne is also on Ancestry.
Rest of their tree on Ancestry contains more errors.

[peterd]

i would check that marriage out as there is a chance george could be a widower when he married elizabeth perry ?

[linell]

Hi Mumbles, I checked the Marriage of Tobias Spittle bach otp and Nancy Bourne sp otp Witnesses were Sarah Spittle and Thomas Bourne. HTH from Linell.

[mumbles]

Hi Linell,
That is a possibility and would explain other children if he married Elizabeth Walters in 1834 and she died. I will look up deaths.
The Ancestry tree has Martha Garratt born 1850 marrying a totally different person to Samuel Weston i.e.a William Bryan
but Info I have from member is that Samuel Weston and Martha were his grandparents.

[mumbles]

Meant to note Martha Spittle b. 1850 married William Bryan not Thomas Garratt

[Northern Lass]

Meant to note Martha Spittle b. 1850 married William Bryan not Thomas Garratt

mumbles on bcc you put thomas garratt and all the census has a thomas garrat
and mother in law is there too

1871 Census St. Thomas Street Dudley Worcs.
Thomas Garratt 25 Chain Maker b. Glasgow Scotland
Martha Garratt 21 b. Netherton Worcs.
Elizabeth Spittel Moth.in.Law 56 Charwoman b.Mamble Worcs.
Emily Spittel sist.in.law 16 Nail Maker b.Netherton Worcs.
Jeremiah Garratt 4mths b. Netherton Worcs.

[mumbles]

Hi Nl,
You have misunderstood my correction of error as what I was correcting was error in noting what fido on Ancestry has recorded whilst I know what I have put on bcc is correct as validated by mother-in law and sister-in-law .
I am liasing with Fido and a forum member and will put more on forum later as it looks like we may be able to connect more spittles

[mumbles]

Fido71 on Ancestry has tree as follows:-
John Spittle b.1751 Dudley Worcs. married Elizabeth Harrison born 1752 Dudley Worcs. on 7/1/1776
Children were :-
Moses Spittle b.Dudley Worcs.
Tobias b. 1783 Netherton Worcs.
Elizabeth b. 3/4/1791 d,12/4/1791 Dudley Worcs.

Tobias married Nancy Bourn b. 1786 Coalbournbrook Staffs.on 24/8/1806 Halesowen Worcs.
Nancy died March 1858 Dudley Worcs.Parents of Nancy are noted as Squire Bourn and Rebecca Unknown

Children of Tobias and Nancy were :-
George b.1808
James b.1806
Eliza b.1809
Mary b.1811
Elizabeth b.1821
Arthur Harrison Spittle b.1827 died 1909
All born Netherton

George born 1808 married Elizabeth Walters on 11/12/1834 ( this against marriage to Elizabeth Perry at 1840)

Children were as follows:-

Abraham Spittle b.1837 died 1921
William Spittle b.1838
Samuel Spittle b.1842
Martha Spittle born 1850
John Spittle b.1853
James Spittle b.1856
All born Netherton Worcs.

Fido then has Martha Spittle b. 1850 marrying a William Bryan and they are shown on 1881 Census as having a child 12 years old and one ten years old suggesting a marriage before 1869 ( This against marriage to Thomas Garratt at 1870)

[Jimmy]

Meant to note Martha Spittle b. 1850 married William Bryan not Thomas Garratt

mumbles on bcc you put thomas garratt and all the census has a thomas garrat
and mother in law is there too

1871 Census St. Thomas Street Dudley Worcs.
Thomas Garratt 25 Chain Maker b. Glasgow Scotland
Martha Garratt 21 b. Netherton Worcs.
Elizabeth Spittel Moth.in.Law 56 Charwoman b.Mamble Worcs.
Emily Spittel sist.in.law 16 Nail Maker b.Netherton Worcs.
Jeremiah Garratt 4mths b. Netherton Worcs.

This looks like the same family as 1871.
1881 census.

Thomas GARRATT. Head M Male 36 Glasgow, Scotland Chain Maker.
Martha GARRATT. Wife M Female 30 Dudley, Worcester,
Jeremiah GARRATT. Son Male 10 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Martha GARRATT. Daur Female 6 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Sarah Ann GARRATT. Daur Female 4 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Ellen GARRATT. Daur Female 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

156 High St
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

[Jimmy]

Fido then has Martha Spittle b. 1850 marrying a William Bryan and they are shown on 1881 Census as having a child 12 years old and one ten years old suggesting a marriage before 1869 ( This against marriage to Thomas Garratt at 1870)

Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

That 1881 with William Bryan could be this.

WILLIAM BRYANT.
MARTHA ATFIELD.
Marriage.
21 JUN 1869, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

[mumbles]

Checked out Fido71 record of children for George and Elizabeth Spittle and it would appear that these are children of a William Spittle and Elizabeth of Tipton or Sedgeley Staffs. No Martha recorded so it would appear his tree is in a bit of a mix up together with wrong marriage to William Bryan.
I have inserted all the records that I can validate and have ignored Fidoj marriage of George Spittle to Elizabeth Walters.
I will investigate some of Tobias and Nancy Bourne children further