Pearson Puzzles-NL looking at ord birth cerifs kids

[mumbles]

This Henry Pearson
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =316999978

1841 Census Waste Bank Oldswinford Stourbridge Worcs.
Henry Pearson 43 Nailer
Elizabeth Pearson 40
Elizabeth Pearson 15
John Pearson 12 Nailor
Jane Pearson 4
Ruth Pearson 6mths.
All born in County

1851 Census Back Lane Oldswinford Stourbridge Worcs.
Henry Pearson Head 52 Nail Maker
Ruth Pearson wife 48 Nail Maker
Mary Ann Pearson dau 19 Nail Maker
Jane Pearson dau 14 Nail Maker
Ruth Pearson dau 10 Nail Maker
All born Lye Worcs.

1861 Census Chances Lane Lye Stourbridge Worcs.
Henry Pearson Head 63 (wid) Nail Maker
John Pearson son 23 Hammer Maker
Jane Pearson dau.in.law 23 Nail Maker
Henry Pearson grd.son 3
All born Lye Waste Worcs.

Would appear to connect to this John Pearson

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =540156881

1861 Census Chances Lane Lye Stourbridge Worcs.
Henry Pearson Head 63 (wid) Nail Maker
John Pearson son 23 Hammer Maker
Jane Pearson dau.in.law 23 Nail Maker
Henry Pearson grd.son 3
All born Lye Waste Worcs.

1871 Census Love Lane Lye Stourbridge Worcs.
John Pearson Head 33 Hammer Maker
Jane Pearson wife 33 Nail Maker
Henry Pearson son 13 Nail Maker
Sarah Pearson dau 9 Scholar
John Pearson son 4 Scholar
Elizabeth Pearson dau 1
Henry Pearson father 74 (wid) Nail Maker
All born Lye Worcs.

1881 Census Love Lane Lye Stourbridge Worcs.
John Pearson Head 42 Hammer Maker Unemployed
Jane Pearson wife 42 Nail Maker
Sarah Pearson dau 19 Brickyard Asst.
John Pearson son 14 Scholar
Elizabeth Pearson dau 11 Scholar
Rosehannah Pearson dau 8 Scholar
Milborough Pearson dau 4 Scholar
Henry Pearson father.in.law 84 (wid) Nail Maker Unemployed
All born Lye Worcs.

because right employment and right location

but a number of questions
a) Henry Pearson is called father of John on 1861 and 1871 Census and father.in.law on 1881 Census
b) who is Jane who John Pearson married c. 1857
c) Who did Henry Pearson marry as Elizabeth in 1841 and Ruth in 1851

A lot of ancestry trees have John Pearson marrying a Jane Pearson in 1858
but that is a different couple already on bcc

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =601242745

Marriage Details Provided by RF and Added by Maggie - 13.03.2011 :
Marriage St. Mary Oldswinford 29/3/1858
John Pearson, 21, B, Chain Maker, of The Lye, Father Joseph Pearson, Chain Maker
Jane Pearson, 22, S, of The Lye, Father Henry Pearson, Nail Maker
Wit : William Mobberley and Maria Pearson

This Jane Pearson could be the daughter of Henry Pearson on 1851 Census ?

[mumbles]

May not be possible to solve this as too many John Pearson marrying Jane living in Lye and born at same time and same occupation

1861 Census Chances Lane Lye Stourbridge Worcs.
Henry Pearson Head 63 (wid) Nail Maker
John Pearson son 23 Hammer Maker
Jane Pearson dau.in.law 23 Nail Maker
Henry Pearson grd.son 3
All born Lye Waste Worcs.

1861 Census Upper Lye Waste Wollescote Stourbridge Worcs.
John Pearson Head 25 Hammer Maker
Jane Pearson wife 22 Nail Maker
Henry Pearson son 3mths.
All born Lye Worcs.

Need to tie down marriages for each John Pearson to Jane but this may not help as father to all may be Henry Pearson Nail Maker

[mumbles]

PEARSON John ANSILL Jane Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/379 1857

PEARSON John PEARSON Jane Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/006/122 1858
Marriage St. Mary Oldswinford 29/3/1858
John Pearson, 21, B, Chain Maker, of The Lye, Father Joseph Pearson, Chain Maker
Jane Pearson, 22, S, of The Lye, Father Henry Pearson, Nail Maker
Wit : William Mobberley and Maria Pearson

PEARSON John WALDRON Jane Amblecote, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 015/001/456 1860

[mumbles]

Waldron marriage looks good for one of them as there is a Jane Waldron dau of Daniel Waldron born in Wollescote/Lye in 1840

[rockyfowler]

12 Aug 1860 Holy Trinity Amblecote
John PEARSON 23 B Hammer Maker Amblecote Father John Pearson Nailer
Jane WALDRON 21 S Servant Amblecote Father Daniel Waldron Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Joseph Jones X / Sarah Jones X

[mumbles]

Thanks Rf

Waldron Marriage appears to be for this one

1861 Census Upper Lye Waste Wollescote Stourbridge Worcs.
John Pearson Head 25 Hammer Maker
Jane Pearson wife 22 Nail Maker
Henry Pearson son 3mths.
All born Lye Worcs.

[mumbles]

With help of RF I have added all details of John Pearson who married Jane Waldron and all details of John Pearson who married Jane Pearson

This still leaves some John Pearson who married Jane Unknown ( marriage needed)

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =974921955

and relationship to Henry Pearson who is shown as father or father.in.law

[mumbles]

Looked up by RF
17 Aug 1857 St. Giles Rowley Regis
John PEARSON 23 B Miner Blackheath Father James Pearson Miner
Jane ANSILL 24 S Blackheath Father William Ansill Miner
after Banns John Signed The X Of Jane
Wit; William Ward X / Rosannah Mainwaring X

So that eliminates the Ansill marriage

[grangers14]

Marriage Details Provided by RF and Added by Maggie - 13.03.2011 :
Marriage St. Mary Oldswinford 29/3/1858
John Pearson, 21, B, Chain Maker, of The Lye, Father Joseph Pearson, Chain Maker
Jane Pearson, 22, S, of The Lye, Father Henry Pearson, Nail Maker
Wit : William Mobberley and Maria Pearson

Wonder who Maria Pearson is?

[Northern Lass]

Ok I have had a look at this

not sure without getting certifs it is quite right

I will get certifs if we need to

I have disconnected and connected with notes

1. I think that this John Pearson that marries Jane Waldron is good
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =468526487

I think that father John is this one here
note all census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =735903910

wits at John and Janes marriage I think are Johns sister will look up that marriage
Marriage Looked up By RF
12 Aug 1860 Holy Trinity Amblecote
John PEARSON 23 B Hammer Maker Amblecote Father John Pearson Nailer
Jane WALDRON 21 S Servant Amblecote Father Daniel Waldron Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Joseph Jones X / Sarah Jones X

so that looks ok to me without getting certifs for kids what do we think?


see next post.

[Northern Lass]

2. I think that the John Pearson and Jane pearson are here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =958750746

I have connected up Jane Pearson that marries John as the dau of Henry Pearson here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =972210007

and I think....but not convinced that that John Pearson is son of Joseph Pearson so connected with note

I have added in marriage in 1858 oldswinford ages tally....and 1911 years marriage match.

3. I have amended this couple here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =713150560

I dont think that couple is the 1858 Oldswinford
but really need the kids certifs to be sure
but the other John Pearson with Jane Pearson in 1861 onwards worked for me as that couple marrying at Oldswinford.
cos of father in law with them in census.

I have no idea as I say without sending for certifs who this couple are
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =713150560

[Northern Lass]

what you think mumbles?

[mumbles]

as far as we can NL

[Northern Lass]

Ok really need certifs may get them in future
have added some notes.


ok to archive?

[grangers14]

I have looked for 2 days NL... just going round in circles
There is a marriage showing in Wolverhampton. Not on freereg, not on west mid or family search couldnt see it on Wolverhampton marriages that I could see... But seems an odd area.
Jo