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"Complete"Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:05 pm
by mumbles
Marriage Looked up by RF
31 Oct 1858 St. Thomas Dudley
William POOLE F B Labourer Dudley Father John Poole (Dec) Labourer
Sarah GROUCUTT F S Dudley Father William Groucutt Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Holdnall? / Mary Ann Knott? X

I think this could be William and Sarah :-
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =946024907

but cannot find William before or after Marriage
or Sarah and Her Father before marriage

Sarah appears in 1881 as unmarried and as widow in 1891 and 1901

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:01 pm
by grangers14
?? Could Sarah have been born Tipton rather than Rowley?

Transcribed as Gronert, looks like Growcut
1851. Church Lane, Tipton
William Growcut, head, 40, Miner, Wellington Salop
Ann, wife, 33, ? Worcestershire
Sarah, daur, 15,
Thomas, son, 11,
William, son, 8,
Amos, son, 3,
Absolam, son, 2,
Amos, son, 10 months
All others born Tipton

1861. High Street, Sedgley.
William Pool. Head, 37, Carter, Wolverhampton
Sarah, wife, 27, Tipton
William, son, 1, Sedgley
/Edward Yates, lodger, 19, Carter, Buckinghamshire Great Horwood?
Jesse Parker? Lodger, 20 Buckinghamshire, Little Horwood

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:14 pm
by mumbles
I found those as well graingers14 but the census records for Sarah and family show Rowley Regis in 1881,1891,1901

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:28 pm
by grangers14
Odd isnt it? I thought I was on to another thing but doesnt seem that's right...

1881 census…
1881. 54 Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
William Woodward, head, crossed out and boarder, 59, Rivet Maker, Halesowen
Sarah Poole, boarder crossed out and head, 42,
William,son, 20,
Edward, son, 13,
Elizabeth, daur, 9,
Charles, son, 7,
George, son, 2,
All others born Rowley Regis

And on a
1871. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
William Woodward, head, Mar, 40, Rivet Maker,
Sarah, wife, mar, 35, Nail Maker
William, son, 10,
Edward, son, 3
All born Rowley Regis

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:31 pm
by grangers14
Actually that is her isnt it? :? Same address? :?

Mind cracked with Lee family and trying to get my head round this too! :lol:
Jo :)

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:20 am
by mumbles
Well spotted grangers14

I have checked births and it would appear children were all registered as Poole
So Sarah was probably unmarried and lived with William Woodward.
Son Edward Poole put William Poole dec. Rivet Maker on marriage cert. but no William Poole existed

The other Groucutt/Poole connection is a red herring

Will look for Sarah Poole before 1871

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:55 am
by mallosa
I looked at this last night but poo poo'd it but now I think this could be her...

1851: Long Lane, New England
(says POOLE on image)
John Towle 43 Head Nailer
Lucy Towle 43 Wife Nailer
Ann Towle 18 Dau Nailer
Sarah Towle 16 Dau Nailer
Phoebe Towle 14 Dau Nailer
Thomas Towle 12 Dau Nailer
Wm Towle 10 Son
Richard Towle 6 Son
Martha Towle 5 Son
(all born Rowley Regis)
Joseph Poole 3 Mo Son

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:00 am
by mumbles
This looks like the William Woodward Sarah Poole lived with

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =655330479

Cannot find Sarah before 1871

The Groucutt/Poole Marriage would be better moved to new thread

Re: Groucutt/Poole Connection

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:25 pm
by mumbles
Have connected with notes and will open new thread for Groucutt marriage