Unknown male (see gallery)

[Frodo]

Has anybody heard of a gentleman named Albert Hack who along with is wife had a photo taken at Aston Manor most probably in the late 19th century - he appears in an album belonging to Nathan Taylor and I think the photos were taken before the birth of Joseph Nathan Taylor in 1896. I think he may be the gentleman posted as an unknown male in the gallery in 2009.

[gardener]

Could it be this one?

1911
121 Bournville Lane, Bournville Nr Bham
Albert Hack 41 wearhouse foreman, born Feckenham
Annie Elizabeth Hack 38 married 15 years, 2 children, 2 living
Leslie William Hack 10
Harriet Talliss 66
Alice Bertha Talliss 25

1901
Bourneville
Albert G Hack 30
Annie E Hack 28
Albert P Hack 8
Hilda Hack 2
Leslie W Hack 3/12

Annie Elizabeth was probably his 2nd wife
1895 Birmingham July-Sep
Walter Barrow
Albert George Hack
Agnes Ann Smithson
Annie Elizabeth Talliss

1892 Aston Apr-May
Annie Brown
William Fripp
Albert George Hack
Elizabeth Hatchett

[gardener]

Can you tell his age (or his wife's) from the photograph?

[mallosa]

Has anybody heard of a gentleman named Albert Hack who along with is wife had a photo taken at Aston Manor most probably in the late 19th century - he appears in an album belonging to Nathan Taylor and I think the photos were taken before the birth of Joseph Nathan Taylor in 1896. I think he may be the gentleman posted as an unknown male in the gallery in 2009.

Is this the one you are refering to Frodo....

gallery/image_page.php?album_id=85&image_id=648

[Frodo]

There is one photo of Albert Hack with his wife and another with his child - at a guess early to mid thirties - looks same age as photo in the gallery. The photographers are Websters of Aston Manor. My great grandfather/great grandmothers families lived in the Rowley Regis are and he was born in Stoke Prior. As my grandfather had a number of different vocations in and around the area it would be quite possible for Charles not to come from Rowley.

[mallosa]

I have added one photo of Albert Hack with his wife and another with his child but for now I have added him under Unknown male so that we can view them side by side.
Frodo thinks he may be the gentleman we already have posted as an unknown male in 2009

see here - app.php/gallery/image/9417

and here - app.php/gallery/image/9416

What do we think?

[gardener]

It looks like the same man. He looks younger in the picture with his wife.

I found the photographer in the census:

1901
3 Lozells Road, Aston Manor
Annie Webster 34 Photographer Birmingham
Gertrude Harrison 21

1891
13 Lozells Road
Annie J Webster 25 Photographer Birmingham
Robert Charles 54

I think the man is likely to be the person I posted above.
I think this is wife no 1
Deaths Mar 1893
Hack Annie 29 King's N. 6c 255

coinciding with the birth of

Births Mar 1893
Hack Albert Percy King's N. 6c 41

I'm not good enough at Victorian fashion to say which wife it would be.
Feckenham (Albert's birthplace) is not far from Stoke Prior, and that is where his mother was born it seems.

1871
George Hack 50
Elizabeth Hack 40 born Stoke Prior
Harrey Hack 19
Arthur Hack 13
Betsey Hack 12
Thomas Hack 6
Nathan Hack 4
Albert Hack 2


I don't know if this is the wedding for the parents, getting a bit guess-ey now.

Name: George Hack
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 11 Nov 1844
Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Taylor
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Father: Richard Hack
Spouse's Father: Joseph Taylor
Reference Number: DRO 25
Archive Roll: M52

[mallosa]

Nice one gardener

Has anybody heard of a gentleman named Albert Hack who along with is wife had a photo taken at Aston Manor most probably in the late 19th century - he appears in an album belonging to Nathan Taylor and I think the photos were taken before the birth of Joseph Nathan Taylor in 1896. I think he may be the gentleman posted as an unknown male in the gallery in 2009.

Does this help - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=403483

[Frodo]

Could Elizabeth Taylor be Eliza Taylor?

[gardener]

Could Elizabeth Taylor be Eliza Taylor?

I don't know. she is always Elizabeth post marriage.

1871 census
George Hack 50 colt breaker, Abbots Morton, Worcs
Elizabeth Hack 40 Stoke Prior, Worcs
Harrey Hack 19 Feckenham (and the others), Worcs
Arthur Hack 13
Betsey Hack 12
Thomas Hack 6
Nathan Hack 4
Albert Hack 2

Marriage for George Hack and Elizabeth Taylor 11 Nov 1844
George Hack horse breaker; father Richard Hack, farmer
Elizabeth Taylor, father Joseph Taylor, farmer
witnesses: Ann and George Shakespeare

1861
Feckenham
George Hack 38 horse breaker, Stratford, warwickshire
Elizabeth Hack 36 Stoke Prior
Ann Hack 11 Feckenham (and rest)
Harvey Hack 9
Margery Hack 7
Author Hack 5
Elizabeth Hack 1
Charlotte Hack 13

1851
George Hack 26 colt breaker, Worcs, Morton
Elizabeth Hack 27 Stoke Prior
Mark Hack 5 Feckenham (and rest)
Sharlote Hack 3
Ann Hack 1

[gardener]

Are these all their kids?
Elizabeth could be Betsey perhaps? Or Eliza.

Name: Nathan Taylor
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Dec 1832
Baptism Place: Stoke Prior, Worcester, England
Father: Joseph Taylor
Mother: Ann

Name: Betsey Taylor
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 16 Apr 1826
Baptism Place: Stoke, Stoke Prior, Worcester, England
Father: Joseph Taylor
Mother: Ann

Name: Eliza Taylor
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1823
Baptism Place: Stoke Prior,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Taylor
Mother: Ann

Name: Philemon Tayler
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1819
Baptism Date: 12 Mar 1820
Baptism Place: Stoke Prior,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Tayler
Mother: Ann

Name: Elizabeth Taylor
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1815
Baptism Place: Stoke Prior,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Taylor
Mother: Ann

Name: Eleanor Taylor
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1813
Baptism Place: Stoke Prior,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Taylor
Mother: Ann

Name: Sarah Jemima Taylor
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1813
Baptism Place: Stoke Prior,Worcester,England
Father: Joseph Taylor
Mother: Ann

[mallosa]

added Hack family census here on BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=403390

added children