William Nickless

Completed discussions and topics. All topics are locked on archive. Please contact a forum moderator if you'd like a thread reactivated.

Moderators: grangers14, admin, Northern Lass

User avatar
sparkstopper
Posts: 3009
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am
Primary Surname Interests: Weston, Garratt, Spittle, Williams, Nickless, Castle.
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Rowley Regis, Dudley, Blackheath,Essington, Birmingham.
Location: Tamworth/Lichfield.

William Nickless

Post by sparkstopper »

Hi all, Everything looks okay re above....are you ready for another 'task'.......Has anyone any info. on William NICKLESS and Emma CASTLE B. abt 1850...whose daughter Emily Louisa NICKLESS b. 1875. married Arthur Douglas WILLIAMS b. 1872, son of Thomas WILLIAMS b. Essington 1847. I believe Emma CASTLE died young, and William NICKLESS married again and had a family, thought to be living in Aston area, B'ham. This would fill a big gap in my 'tree'. Regards 'sparks'.
Semper Paratus:
User avatar
Northern Lass
Posts: 46021
Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne

Re: William Nickless

Post by Northern Lass »

So what do you actually need Sparks?
the death of Emma?
the remarriage of William?

Ok on the 1881 census Wolloston Worcs we have William Nickless and wife Emma and kids including Emma

William is age 62 farmer b Worcs Elmbridge?
and
Emma is age 40 b stourbridge so this looks like her death....

Deaths Jun 1882
Nickless Emma 41 Stourbridge 6c 85

on the 1891 he is still in Wolloston
age 70 widower with son William age 25 and Emma

are you sure you have him remarried?
as the one in bromsgrove in 1901 married to an Ann is on the 1891 census with her
so that aint yours...

:?
User avatar
Northern Lass
Posts: 46021
Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:12 am
Primary Surname Interests: Hinett, Rose, Round, Shakespear, Wilkins,
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Black Country, Wiltshire, Newcastle upon Tyne

Re: William Nickless

Post by Northern Lass »

Think this could be his death

Deaths Dec 1895

Nickless William 78 Stourbridge 6c 103
User avatar
sparkstopper
Posts: 3009
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am
Primary Surname Interests: Weston, Garratt, Spittle, Williams, Nickless, Castle.
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Rowley Regis, Dudley, Blackheath,Essington, Birmingham.
Location: Tamworth/Lichfield.

Re: William Nickless

Post by sparkstopper »

Have Birth Cert. dated 3.10.1874 for Emily Louisa Nickless.....Father William Nickless and mother Emma (formally Castle) Can find Emily on 1891 Census ..in service for William Sargeant ..Baker. Foleshill....Cannot find any reference on 1881 for Emily L Nickless or Her parents 1881 or before. William Nickless is down as a Brassdresser.. I have a poss..for William 1881, living in Aston B'ham age 27 and a widower?? so Emma must have died very young.
Semper Paratus:
User avatar
grangers14
Posts: 15640
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:50 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Shaw, Round, Lawrence, Wain
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Midlands, North East
Location: North East

Re: William Nickless

Post by grangers14 »

I was just looking at this,
I was wondering if you have any certificates to say williams occupation and if it was Emma Castle, I cant see a marriage for them?
Jo :)
User avatar
sparkstopper
Posts: 3009
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am
Primary Surname Interests: Weston, Garratt, Spittle, Williams, Nickless, Castle.
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Rowley Regis, Dudley, Blackheath,Essington, Birmingham.
Location: Tamworth/Lichfield.

Re: William Nickless

Post by sparkstopper »

Hi Jo...I had forgotten about this post ... :oops: Relates to my Gt/Grandparents.
I have a copy of a marriage cert: 31st May 1873
St.Davids, Birmingham....William NICHOLAS/ Emily CASTLE
William is rec.as Brass founder..father William Nicholas, fitter.
Emily's father...Thomas Castle..Gen.Dealer.
William signed X Emily signed name.
On my Grandmothers birth cert. father is down as Brass Dresser
mother ..Emma NICKLESS formally CASTLE....I am assuming that
this is the correct marriage as I cant find anything similar.
Semper Paratus:
User avatar
sparkstopper
Posts: 3009
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am
Primary Surname Interests: Weston, Garratt, Spittle, Williams, Nickless, Castle.
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Rowley Regis, Dudley, Blackheath,Essington, Birmingham.
Location: Tamworth/Lichfield.

Re: William Nickless

Post by sparkstopper »

sparkstopper wrote:Have Birth Cert. dated 3.10.1874 for Emily Louisa Nickless.....Father William Nickless and mother Emma (formally Castle) Can find Emily on 1891 Census ..in service for William Sargeant ..Baker. Foleshill....Cannot find any reference on 1881 for Emily L Nickless or Her parents 1881 or before. William Nickless is down as a Brassdresser.. I have a poss..for William 1881, living in Aston B'ham age 27 and a widower?? so Emma must have died very young.

I also have copy of a possible sec.marriage dated 4th Sept. 1881..St.Andrews,Bordsley, Warks.
William NICKLISS (widr) Brass dresser ..father William . fitter and
Mary Ann ALLEY spin. father John Alley ..Blacksmith.
Semper Paratus:
User avatar
Pudsey to Howard
Posts: 176
Joined: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:37 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Smith Tait Bradshaw Dimmock Tunnicliffe Allcock
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Yorkshire Durham Lancashire Staffordshire Worcestershire
Location: Howard Queensland

Re: William Nickless

Post by Pudsey to Howard »

Hi

Posiible death for Emma/Emily:

Emily Nicholas abt 1852 1875 Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire Volume 6d page 220

Doug
Never throw rocks at a man with a machine gun!
User avatar
sparkstopper
Posts: 3009
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 am
Primary Surname Interests: Weston, Garratt, Spittle, Williams, Nickless, Castle.
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Rowley Regis, Dudley, Blackheath,Essington, Birmingham.
Location: Tamworth/Lichfield.

Re: William Nickless

Post by sparkstopper »

sparkstopper wrote:Have Birth Cert. dated 3.10.1874 for Emily Louisa Nickless.....Father William Nickless and mother Emma (formally Castle) Can find Emily on 1891 Census ..in service for William Sargeant ..Baker. Foleshill....Cannot find any reference on 1881 for Emily L Nickless or Her parents 1881 or before. William Nickless is down as a Brassdresser.. I have a poss..for William 1881, living in Aston B'ham age 27 and a widower?? so Emma must have died very young.


Yes Doug...Thats about right, it would make Emily Louisa(child) about 1 yr. old
where is she on 1881,,have got her on 1891..see above. Trouble with the
conflicting surname, as obviously the poor b.....r couldn't read or write. Derek.
Semper Paratus:
User avatar
grangers14
Posts: 15640
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:50 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Shaw, Round, Lawrence, Wain
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Midlands, North East
Location: North East

Re: William Nickless

Post by grangers14 »

Not sure on this but...
An Emily not an Emma??

1871 Census
3 ct 2 House, Vere? Street, St Martin, Birmingham
Thomas Castle, head, 44, Fish? Salesman,
Harriet, wife, 43,
Sarah A, daur, 23, Bedstaed Painter
Emily, daur, 19, French Polisher
Louisa, daur, 16, lacquerer
Susan H, daur, 13, Warehouse girl
John A, son, 9,
Thomas, boarder, 24, Turner
All born Banbury Oxon
User avatar
grangers14
Posts: 15640
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:50 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Shaw, Round, Lawrence, Wain
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Midlands, North East
Location: North East

Re: William Nickless

Post by grangers14 »

Igi has this... For an Emma
Christening 28th Dec 1851, broadway, Worcester, (but age 10)
Father Thomas Castle and Mother Mary

For an Emily
Christening 1st May 1851 Banbury Oxford, Father Thomas Castle Mother Harriet
User avatar
Jimmy
Posts: 22696
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:40 am
Primary Surname Interests: Ancestry
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Worcestershire, Staffordshire.
Location: Kidderminster.

Re: William Nickless

Post by Jimmy »

This as a Nickless- Nicholas connection.
1881.
Thomas CASTLE Head M Male 54 Neithrop Banbury Genl Labourer.
Harriett CASTLE Wife M Female 53 Nethercote Banbury.
John Albert CASTLE Son U Male 19 Banbury Bricklayers Labourer.
William NICHOLAS Grandson Male 8 Birmingham Scholar.

Catherine Wheel Yard 1.
Banbury, Oxford.
User avatar
Jimmy
Posts: 22696
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:40 am
Primary Surname Interests: Ancestry
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Worcestershire, Staffordshire.
Location: Kidderminster.

Re: William Nickless

Post by Jimmy »

Long shot.
1881.
William NICHOLLS Head M Male 41 Bham, Warwick, England Coach Spring Maker.
Amelia NICHOLLS Wife M Female 33 Oxford, Oxford, England
Alfred NICHOLLS Son U Male 17 Bham, Warwick, England Nail Caster.
Mary NICHOLLS Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England
William NICHOLLS Son Male 14 Bham, Warwick, England
Elizebeth NICHOLLS Daur Female 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Rosina NICHOLLS Daur Female 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ada NICHOLLS Daur Female 6 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Amelia NICHOLLS Daur Female 4 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar

48 Court No 4 House Cheapside.
Birmingham, Warwick, England
User avatar
Jimmy
Posts: 22696
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:40 am
Primary Surname Interests: Ancestry
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Worcestershire, Staffordshire.
Location: Kidderminster.

Re: William Nickless

Post by Jimmy »

This one looks to late for Emily Louisa.

Louisa NICHOLLS.
Birth Year <1877>
Birthplace Birmingham, Warwick.
Age 4
Occupation
Marital Status U <Unmarried>
Head of Household Eliza BIDDLE
Relation Adopted
Disability


1 Bk 26 Green Street
Aston, Warwick, England
User avatar
Jimmy
Posts: 22696
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:40 am
Primary Surname Interests: Ancestry
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Worcestershire, Staffordshire.
Location: Kidderminster.

Re: William Nickless

Post by Jimmy »

Another long shot.
1881.
William NICKLIN Head M Male 42 Stourbridge, Worcester, England Joiner
Emma NICKLIN Wife M Female 44 Bham, Warwick, England
Francis W. NICKLIN Son U Male 14 Bham, Warwick, England Assistant In Tea Warehouse
Albert J. NICKLIN Son Male 11 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Henrietta NICKLIN Daur Female 7 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Emma L. NICKLIN Daur Female 6 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
George H. NICKLIN Son Male 3 Bham, Warwick, England
Charles H. NICKLIN Son Male 1 Bham, Warwick, England

30 Vaughton St.
Aston, Warwick.
Locked

Return to “Archived General Discussion”