1)John Hall married Louisa Stamp (on Bcc)on 13/12/1852 but on 1901 Census shown married to Mary A. Hall but on 1911 Census shown as married 55 years so did he remarry or is this an error
2) 4 Westwood children are shown between 1891 to 1911 but on 1911 Mary Ann Westwood (nee Hall) is shown as married and married 27 years and only 3 children
3) Jane Westwood dau 27 (s) appears in 1911 and not with family in 1891 or 1901
4) Who did Mary Ann Hall marry and why is she shown as married in 1891 but as Mary A. Hall and not as Mary A. Westwood ?
1861 Census Waterloo Street New DockDudley Worcs.
John Hall Head 27 Coal Miner & Greengrocer
Louisa Hall wife 28
Mary A. Hall dau 5 Scholar
James Hall son 2
William Hall son 1mth.
All born Dudley Worcs.
1871 Census 27 Bull Ring Dudley Worcs.
John Hall Head 35 Miner
Louisa Hall wife 35
Mary A. Hall dau 15
James Hall son 13
William Hall son 11
John Hall son 3
George Hall son 6mths.
All born Dudley Worcs.
1881 Census 28 Spring Mire Dudley Worcs.
John Hall Head 48 Coal Miner
Lois Hall wife 48 Nailer
William Hall son 18 Coal Miner
John Hall son 13 Breeze Worker
George Hall son 10 Scholar
Charles Hall son 8 Scholar
All born Dudley Worcs.
in 1881 dau. Mary Ann Hall is living with uncle and aunt :-
1881 Census Old Crown Inn 1 Sheepwash Lane West Bromwich Staffs.
Charles Stamps Head 58 Broker
Sarah Stamps wife 58 born Tipton Staffs.
Typhena Stamps dau 28
George Stamps son 21 Broker
Mary Ann Hall niece 22 Servant
Elizabeth Aston grd.dau 9 Scholar born West Bromwich Staffs.
Charles Aston grd.son 4 born West Bromwich Staffs.
Martha Aston grd.dau 2 born West Bromwichb Staffs.
Rest born Dudley Worcs.
1891 Census 27 Bull Ring Dudley Worcs.
John Hall Head 58 Coal Miner
Louisa Hall wife 58
John Hall son 23 Coal Miner
George Hall son 20 Coal Miner
Charles Hall son 18 House Painter
Mary A. Hall dau 37 (m)
John Westwood Grd.son 8
James Westwood grd.son 6
All born Dudley Worcs.
1901 Census 27 Bull Ring Dudley Worcs.
John Hall Head 70 General Labourer
Mary A. Hall wife 65
Mary A. Westwood dau 43 (m)
James Westwood grd.son 16
All born Dudley Worcs.
1911 Census 13 Bull Ring Dudley Worcs.
Mary A. Westwood dau 56 (m)
Married 27 years, 3 children, 3 living
James Westwood son 26 (s)
Jane Westwood dau 27 (s)
Elizabeth Westwood dau 6
John Hall Father (boarder) 81 Coal Miner (Hewer) Retired
Married 55 years, 11 children , 5 living
All born Dudley Worcs.
"Complete"Census Mix-up ?
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"Complete"Census Mix-up ?
Last edited by mumbles on Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
- Jimmy
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Re: Census Mix-up ?
Looks like a census error,
Deaths Jun 1910.
Hall Louisa. 77. Dudley. 6c. 48.
Deaths Jun 1910.
Hall Louisa. 77. Dudley. 6c. 48.
Re: Census Mix-up ?
Thanks Jimmy,
Jane Westwood looks unlikely unless John in 1891 was really Jane
Jane Westwood looks unlikely unless John in 1891 was really Jane
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Re: Census Mix-up ?
Poss,
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1882.
HALL Mary A. WESTWOOD William. Tipton, St Mark. Sandwell Register Office. 38/3/456.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1882.
HALL Mary A. WESTWOOD William. Tipton, St Mark. Sandwell Register Office. 38/3/456.
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Re: Census Mix-up ?
I can't see a Jane Westwood in 1891 or 1901, or a birth.
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Re: Census Mix-up ?
5 Nov 1882 St Mark`s Church Ocker Hill
William WESTWOOD 21 B Coal Loader Eagle Lane Father John Westwood Coal Miner
Mary Ann HALL 21 S Eagle Lane Father John Hall Miner
After Banns William Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Horatio Stamps / Sarah Ann Stamps
William WESTWOOD 21 B Coal Loader Eagle Lane Father John Westwood Coal Miner
Mary Ann HALL 21 S Eagle Lane Father John Hall Miner
After Banns William Signed The X Of Mary
Wit; Horatio Stamps / Sarah Ann Stamps
“As I learned from growing up, you don’t mess with your grandmother.” — Prince William
Re: Census Mix-up ?
Thanks RF
So Mary Ann Hall did marry a William Westwood as Witnesses tie up with Stamp family
So Mary Ann Hall did marry a William Westwood as Witnesses tie up with Stamp family
Re: Census Mix-up ?
Thanks RF and Jimmy I can always rely on you to think outside the box and solve mysteries