*ARC TBC* 1861 census

[Gamegirlxx]

I have been researching my family history - my maiden name JARVIS and have been successful with locating my ancestors on all the census entries except 1861. I'm not sure why this is, I was wondering of anyone could shed some light on this? The family were currently in Crayford, Kent in 1851 and the head of the family was down as a 'pauper (calico printer)' age 83. In 1871 the same family (excluding the head and his wife as they were pretty old), had moved to Middlesex. I have obviously searched each member of the family with no luck.
Thanks

[snoopysue]

Have you tried looking at the addresses from 1851 and 1871 to see if the surname has been mistranscribed? Another possibilty I've come across is that when a family moved they used a different surname (his mother's maiden name) on the first census, as I'd got all the childrens names, and as they were living at the same address ten years later (with the original surname), I knew I'd got the right family.

[gardener]

Hi
Would you like to post the details of the people that you are looking for? There are a heap of them in 1851 and I am not sure which you want.
Have you tried searching for surname only, born Crayford, Kent. That should flush some of them out. Females may have married I suppose.

[gardener]

Deaths Sep 1851 (>99%)
JARVIS James Dartford 5 56

Deaths Mar 1852 (>99%)
JARVIS Alice Dartford 2a 132


Deaths Sep 1852 (>99%)
JARVIS Martha Dartford 2a 140


FreeReg has

County Kent
Place Crayford
Church St Paulinus
RegisterNumber 190
BurialDate 15 Feb 1852
Forename Alice
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname JARVIS
Age 80
Abode Crayford
Notes
FileNumber 35164

County Kent
Place Crayford
Church St Paulinus
RegisterNumber 223
BurialDate 26 Sep 1852
Forename Martha
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname JARVIS
Age 40
Abode Crayford
Notes
FileNumber 35164


Young Cabel could be this one


1861 London
Caleb Jarvis 30
Emma Jarvis 25

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 216; Folio: 14; Page: 26; GSU roll: 542593.

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1861 crayford st, crayford

John Jarvis 59 Liftman at ? Beddington, Surrey
Mary Jarvis 48 greener at ? Crayford, Kent,
Catherine Jarvis 9 Crayford, Kent,

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right ones gardener


1851 church lane ? crayford

James Jarvis 83 pauper - calico printer Wandsworth, Surrey
Alice Jarvis 78 pauper - calico printer Bromley, Middlesex
Martha Jarvis 38 dressmaker, Crayford, Kent
Cabb (caleb) Jarvis 20 factory lab, Crayford, Kent

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1841 crayford village

James Jarvis 71 calico printer
Alice Jarvis 68
Caleb Jarvis 30
Martha Jarvis 28
Caleb Jarvis 9
Henry Jarvis 7
George Jarvis 6

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calab was married in 1865 in london then


Marriages Mar 1865
Brightwell Charlotte Ann Lambeth 1d 473
Jarvis Caleb Lambeth 1d 473

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is this him ?

1861 smithfield rd, london

Caleb Jarvis 30 collar dresser (saddle)? kent
Emma Jarvis 25 kent

[Jimmy]

calab was married in 1865 in london then


Marriages Mar 1865
Brightwell Charlotte Ann Lambeth 1d 473
Jarvis Caleb Lambeth 1d 473

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Caleb Jarvis.
Name: Caleb Jarvis. Bachelor. Collar dresser.
Spouse: Charlotte Ann Brightwell. Spinster.
Record Type: Marriage.
Event Date: 20 Mar 1865.
Parish: St Mary, Lambeth.
Borough: Lambeth.
Father Name: Caleb Jarvis. (Dec) Printer.
Spouse Father: William Brightwell. Bricklayer.
Register Type: Parish Register.

Witnesses,
William James Brightwell, Eliza Brightwell.

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calab was married in 1865 in london then


Marriages Mar 1865
Brightwell Charlotte Ann Lambeth 1d 473
Jarvis Caleb Lambeth 1d 473

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Caleb Jarvis.
Name: Caleb Jarvis. Bachelor. Collar dresser.
Spouse: Charlotte Ann Brightwell. Spinster.
Record Type: Marriage.
Event Date: 20 Mar 1865.
Parish: St Mary, Lambeth.
Borough: Lambeth.
Father Name: Caleb Jarvis. (Dec) Printer.
Spouse Father: William Brightwell. Bricklayer.
Register Type: Parish Register.

Witnesses,
William James Brightwell, Eliza Brightwell.

is this him ?

1861 smithfield rd, london

Caleb Jarvis 30 collar dresser (saddle)? kent
Emma Jarvis 25 kent

This might be him too as i couldnt find a marriage poss living together ?

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1841 crayford village

James Jarvis 71 calico printer
Alice Jarvis 68
Caleb Jarvis 30
Martha Jarvis 28
Caleb Jarvis 9
Henry Jarvis 7
George Jarvis 6

right ones gardener


1851 church lane ? crayford

James Jarvis 83 pauper - calico printer Wandsworth, Surrey
Alice Jarvis 78 pauper - calico printer Bromley, Middlesex
Martha Jarvis 38 dressmaker, Crayford, Kent
Cabb (caleb) Jarvis 20 factory lab, Crayford, Kent

so martha must be caleb mother in 1851 and d in law to james and alice

[gardener]

Martha might just be an unmarried daughter.

Baptism from Freereg

County Kent
Place Crayford
Church St Paulinus
RegisterNumber 1232
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 02 Oct 1831
Forename Caleb
Sex -
FatherForename Caleb
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname JARVIS
MotherSurname
Abode Crayford
FatherOccupation Printer
Notes
FileNumber 35149

and Caleb snr's burial

County Kent
Place Crayford
Church St Paulinus
RegisterNumber 1420
BurialDate 19 Jul 1846
Forename Caleb
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname JARVIS
Age 36
Abode Crayford
Notes
FileNumber 35163

[grangers14]

I'm moving this over to general discussions.
Jo

[Gamegirlxx]

Wow! Thank you everyone for your posts! That's so helpful! Well seems like you have found the same as me so:

1841 census Crayford vilage, crayford
James Jarvis
Alice Jarvis
Caleb Jarvis
Martha "
Caleb "
Henry "
George "

1851 census Church street, Crayford
James Jarvis
Alice "
Martha "
Caleb "

I'm a bit confused by quite a lot really! It seems James and Alice had Caleb & Martha. Then Caleb marries Elizabeth Hudson and they have 4 children Caleb, Henry, George & William. This Caleb then marries Charlotte Ann Brightwell (I have this certificate). The older Caleb is down as deceased on the marriage certificate (1865). I also need to check the death entries found for Alice & James as I think they look right. I still am finding it hard to trace anyone during 1861. I need to check back over the posts again to digest the information! I thought that the name Caleb would be easy to find but it seems not so..There are lots of variations through the generations like George Caleb, Caleb George, William Caleb etc!
James Jarvis is my 5x great grandfather- I think! Just getting stuck around the calebs and the absence of an 1861 census.
Thanks again everyone x